David and Dennis,
I have yet to try this (David's split parts on one staff) method but
your experience, and clear description of the process, is encouraging
and most helpful. Thank you.
Dennis' idea of adding blank pages to the parts and not printing
those pages had not occurred to me. I'm sure it would work, but it
also seems kludgy. (My method with two sets of page numbers is not
necessarily better.) I reiterate: if Finale can recognize how blank
pages work in scores and not include them in the parts, there's no
reason it can't be taught to recognize that those pages are not there
in the parts. Another possibility - page number offset could be
toggled to affect score/parts or both.
Thanks to both of you for continued communication about these
issues. I'm not even convinced that this new system will speed my
workflow. Right now, it hasn't. But I am obstinate about learning
to control it. (Maybe I'm just obstinate!)
Chuck
On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:03 AM, dhbailey wrote:
dc wrote:
dhbailey écrit:
I did find something extremely curious but I didn't have time to
investigate further -- when trying to enter corrections, I
couldn't get into Speedy Entry while editing a part. Which was a
royal pain in the butt because I had a list of corrections which
said "Flute 1, measure 15, change Db to Dnatural." It would have
been so much easier to do that from the part and have the edit
show up in the score. I may have been doing something, but it
makes no sense to have linked parts if I can't edit the actual
music in the parts and have it appear in the score.
That's quite strange, because I just finished my first projects
with linked parts also, and have been able to make changes in the
parts with Speedy Entry. I wonder if there is some option
somewhere that says "allow editing in parts"?
I figured out what it is -- annoying but something I can live with
(guess I have to, don't I?)
I was working on a part where there were two staves for the piano
part, and then 2 flute parts on a single staff above that. The 2
flute parts entered most easily in a combination of layers and
voices to get everything to show as it should.
In creating the parts, I created a flute1-2 part which was simply
the 2-part flute staff. But Manage Parts allows for precise
splitting of multiple parts on a single staff (sort of) in that we
can specify the voicing which will go to each part. So I then
created 2 separate flute parts (amazingly, I think that this linked
parts thing might actually work for 2 parts on one staff) by
defining the voicing which would go to each part when split from
the 2-part staff.
For the Flute 1 part I checked the box for "Selected notes from one
or more layers," which then activated the lower box which contains
the "Rules for Seleting Notes from One or More Layer(s)" and then
checked the radio button for "Selected Note(s)" and checked only
"1st note" box and also the "Count Notes:" "From the top." I also
checked the box "Include Single Note Passages" and for "In Measures
Containing Multiple Layers, Display Layer" I selected layer 1. Then
I click OK and it actually did put all the correct notes in the part!
For the Flute 2 part, I followed the same procedure except that for
"Count Notes" I checked the "From the Bottom" radio button, and for
"In Measures Containing Multiple Layers, Display Layer" I selected
Layer 2. After Clicking OK, I found that the program actually did
put all the correct notes in the Flute 2 part.
It is in either of these two split parts (Flute 1 or Flute 2) that
I cannot access either Speedy Entry or Simple Entry, but in the
combined Flute1-2 part, I can edit the notes there and have them
show up in the score.
I was trying to edit the notes in the separate Flute 2 part,
thinking that would be easier.
I am very impressed with how great a job this allowed me to do in
splitting a multi-staff part into separate parts, and I think that
our original fears of how horrible this linked score/parts feature
might be for multi-part staves may be unfounded.
Then when it came to page layout I did extract the parts and found
that all the page layout issues were much easier to cope with.
But I think that with some more practice and investigation, the
annoyances with measure number placement and display, and with text
placement and expression placement, may actually become manageable.
At least I've gotten to the bottom of the mystery as to why I
wasn't able to use Speedy or Simple Entry on a couple of parts!
--
David H. Bailey
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