On Apr 30, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Good point ... Marshall uses "learn" as the vowel sound model.
Dean
On Apr 30, 2007, at 1:46 PM, John Howell wrote:
Well, I don't know IPA, but could you describe what you mean by [3]
by analogy with other standard English words. Otherwise I can't tell
what you're suggesting.
John
At 12:38 PM -0700 4/30/07, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
On Apr 29, 2007, at 4:24 PM, John Howell wrote:
Madeleine Marshall informs, "Never sing "r" before a consonant. (p.
9) So, she would have the singers pronounce bird as" b[3]d." I.e.,
she would maintain that the ONLY vowel in said example is [3], and
that the "r" sound does not exist. This approach has worked fine
with all my choirs.
There is huge confusion going on here between the British and American
pronunciations of -er. In American, words like bird and learn are
pronounced with a vocalic r--that is, the letter r is extended, the
written vowel is suppressed, and the sound r *is* the vowel.
In British, it is the r that is suppressed, and the vowel is pronounced
as a phoneme that simply doesn't exist in American, but that is close
to the vowel in "bush." Madeleine Marshall, quoted above, prefers the
British pronunciation--which I imagine would sound a bit affected in an
American text. Imagine:
"The most beautiful sound I evah heud: Maria (Maria Maria)
All the beautiful sounds in the weuld in a single weud: Maria (Maria
Maria)"
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/
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