Hi Randolph,

Does the odd expression placement behavior in 2009/2010 happen with files that 
have a lot of measure attached dynamic expressions?  Or does it happen with 
both measure and note attached expressions?

There's a few things we can do to make that transition easier.

Justin Phillips
Notation Product Specialist
MakeMusic, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of 
Randolph Peters
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:00 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] TAN: minor rant

Hi Justin,

Welcome to our Finale discussion group. I hope that you will come to 
appreciate, as I have, the breadth of wisdom and experience of many of the 
contributors on this list. Christopher Smith is one such member. What he says 
about Finale should be given the highest attention at MakeMusic.

I would like to raise another important issue that appears not to concern the 
Finale development team. And that is the problem of new versions of Finale not 
opening or translating older Finale files properly.

If you have old (say pre-2003) Finale files that you want to edit in the 
current version, you need to open them in Finale 2008 to have even the remotest 
chance having your expressions present and in the proper place. Then you can 
open the files in Finale 2010 and work with them. Even by going through Finale 
2008, there is still much lost in translation. [Some users have had better 
success opening first with Finale 2002, then 2008, then 2010.]

The point is that Finale 2009 and 2010 don't have the ability to translate 
those older files that Finale 2008 has.

Why was this capability lost?

And what are we going to do when Finale 2008 doesn't work on our computers? 
[This is more of a Mac problem, but we've seen it happen with the switch to 
System X AND the switch to intel chips.]

I've been with Finale since version 1 (as have many on this list) and we have a 
significant intellectual capital stored in our files. We need to be able to 
upgrade and edit those files, otherwise we lose most of the advantage of doing 
them on a computer to begin with.

The subject line says "minor rant", but this is major.

-Randolph Peters


Christopher Smith wrote:
> Justin,
> 
> I notice you said you wanted to hear feedback about new features and 
> improvements. Sorry to come down hard on you, but what most of us on this 
> list are wringing our hands over are NOT more new features, but fixing the 
> bugs that cost us so much in lost time. Some are longstanding bugs, some are 
> introduced brand new accompanying the "new" features, and some break things 
> that always worked correctly before. It's the latter that are so galling, and 
> most likely to cost MakeMusic upgraders. How can we take a chance on paying 
> for an upgrade when so many new bugs have accompanied the last few upgrades, 
> and so few old bugs have gone unrepaired?
> 
> I am sorry to give you such an impolite welcome to the list, but you DID 
> invite comments.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
> On Thu Apr 1, at ThursdayApr 1 10:02 AM, Phillips, Justin wrote:
> 
>> Hi David/Mark,
>> 
>> We certainly do monitor as many Finale boards and mailing lists as we can.  
>> In addition, we do want to hear thoughts and feedback about our new features 
>> or improvements you would like to see in future versions.  Sometimes we do 
>> miss things on these mailing lists/forums, so the best way to ensure your 
>> suggestions and thoughts are seen by us is to submit them via a support case 
>> at the link below:
>> 
>> http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/ask
>> 
>> Wish everyone the best,
>> 
>> Justin Phillips
>> Notation Product Specialist
>> MakeMusic, Inc.


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