FWIW: All the Mahler scores are online at imslp.org. The notation in the 7th is fffff with the footnote "So stark anreißen, daß die Saiten an das Holz anschlagen." Not much help for the current discussion, I guess. (Bar 401)
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:28 PM, SN jef chippewa < shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > can anyone give me reputable references for the use of the bartók pizz with > circle and line going downwards? i come across this once in awhile and as > far as i can tell it is wrong, not just because it too closely resembles the > cello thumb position symbol. but very common amongst german composers for > some reason. > > 1) i find stem UP in: > - bartók 5th quartet, universal edition vienna 1936 UE 10736, p. 47 > (scherzo m. 88) > - bartók 6th quartet, boosey & hawkes USA 1941 B&H 8437, p. 37 (mvmt. 3, m. > 101) > > does anyone have other editions of these or other bartók quartets handy to > check for me? > > [interestingly i also fnd LH pizz at end of string notated as double circle > (one inside the other) in the adagio molto (mm. 32-33)] > > 2) i find stem DOWN in lachenmann (breitkopf: pression for one cellist, > kontrakadenz for full orchestra), whose notation is generally a very > reliable reference. have also come across it stem down in other german > scores... (one german client mentioned he thought it was a finale standard) > > > also if anyone has these references nearby, how is it notated in: > > BARTOK - Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta (snap pizz. + gliss) > KODALY - Sonata for Solo Cello, Op. 8 (1915), does he use this technique? > MAHLER - Seventh Symphony, 3rd mvmt: "he provides the violins with the > footnote 'pluck so hard that the strings hit the wood'." (wikipedia) > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
