I have several sources in the Boosey and Hawkes editions. B&H 18756 Contrasts 1st mvt page 7, etc.
B&H 16155 circle with the up line page 20, 28, several in the strings percussion and celeste the circle within a circle on page 24, I can't find my copy of the divertimento, but, given the fact that it's a B&H score, it most likely follows the circle with the up line as well I hope this helps. Michael mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 > From: SN jef chippewa <shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> > Reply-To: <finale@shsu.edu> > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:28:00 +0200 > To: <finale@shsu.edu> > Subject: [Finale] bartók pizz. : line up vs. down > > > can anyone give me reputable references for the > use of the bartók pizz with circle and line going > downwards? i come across this once in awhile and > as far as i can tell it is wrong, not just > because it too closely resembles the cello thumb > position symbol. but very common amongst german > composers for some reason. > > 1) i find stem UP in: > - bartók 5th quartet, universal edition vienna > 1936 UE 10736, p. 47 (scherzo m. 88) Same in the B&H edition 9044 page 252 > - bartók 6th quartet, boosey & hawkes USA 1941 > B&H 8437, p. 37 (mvmt. 3, m. 101) > > does anyone have other editions of these or other > bartók quartets handy to check for me? > > [interestingly i also fnd LH pizz at end of > string notated as double circle (one inside the > other) in the adagio molto (mm. 32-33)] > > 2) i find stem DOWN in lachenmann (breitkopf: > pression for one cellist, kontrakadenz for full > orchestra), whose notation is generally a very > reliable reference. have also come across it > stem down in other german scores... (one german > client mentioned he thought it was a finale > standard) > > > also if anyone has these references nearby, how is it notated in: > > BARTOK - Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta (snap pizz. + gliss) > KODALY - Sonata for Solo Cello, Op. 8 (1915), does he use this technique? > MAHLER - Seventh Symphony, 3rd mvmt: "he provides > the violins with the footnote 'pluck so hard that > the strings hit the wood'." (wikipedia) > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
