Thanks for the reply Chris. I've been burned by this too many times to trust it so I always go for the handle. Wish you could give us something visual to let us know what's going on.
Steve ________________________________________ From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Young, Chris [cyo...@makemusic.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:31 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Moving individual staves in a system Hi Steve, I can understand that. The method of clicking directly in the first measure of the system will highlight the staff for that system only, and should help avoid the unintended selection of all systems in the document. Chris -----Original Message----- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Fiskum, Steve Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:21 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Moving individual staves in a system Hello Christopher "Clicking with the staff tool to the left of the system will highlight the entire staff for the document." IS the problem because it is easy to miss the staff handle and do exactly what you point out when all you want to do is move a specific page's staff. The odd thing about the new system is that it seems to be easier to move a staff on ALL pages than to move a staff on a single page. It really should be the other way around because in most cases when engraving a file you are going to be performing so many subtle tweaks to the staves on individual pages 98% of the time. Steve ________________________________________ From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Young, Chris [cyo...@makemusic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:37 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Moving individual staves in a system Hi All, I just wanted to jump in and hopefully offer some help on this. The new staff spacing system is done on a selection basis, and while it can be difficult to select just the one handle for spacing an individual system, please be aware that you can also simply select the region you'd like to adjust, similar to selecting measures. So, if you'd like to space just the first system, you can click directly in the first measure with the staff tool, then drag the handle. If you'd like to expand that selection, hold shift and click in the first measure of the next system. You'll only move the selected systems this way. Clicking with the staff tool to the left of the system will highlight the entire staff for the document. Hope that helps! Christopher Y Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of J D Thomas Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:39 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Moving individual staves in a system A thought along these lines might be to have a user-defined key combo that would move items (like staves) a larger amount away from what we can now set in Document Options. What I was thinking was similar to what you can do in Adobe Illustrator, where if you hold down the Command key, any selected item would more 10 pixels, or any other user-defined amount. I find I use that a ton in AI. I've been wrestling with exactly the same staff issues Robert mentions. I'm going thru an enormous old Finale file in Fin2K11 (over 1800 measures) for a client, and this new staff scenario is wreaking have with the old optimization feature. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Mar 22, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Fiskum, Steve wrote: > Yes! This is the biggest irritation with the new system. The amount of > concentration and precision needed in just grabbing a staff can be > very frustrating. It would be better if the system was tweaked just a > bit to allow a bigger area for us to click-and-drag so that it is not > so easy to move ALL systems on all pages. You really need to make sure > you click on the handle and do not accidentally click it twice because > you will easily move the systems on all pages. This was the first > thing that was hard to get used to for me especially since I usually > work while viewing a single page at a time. It would be great if we > had a different highlight color so we would know which part of the staff > tool's staff moving function was ON. > > Cheers, > Steve > > > On 3/22/12 12:07 PM, "Robert Patterson" <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> > wrote: > >> Something that is turning into a bother is that I keep accidentally >> destroying all my individual vertical staff positioning. I think it >> may because it is so easy to select all systems rather than just one >> when hiding a staff. I'm not sure but it is really annoying. >> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jari Williamsson < >> jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote: >> >>> On 2012-03-22 17:13, Aaron Sherber wrote: >>>> On 3/22/2012 11:36 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: >>>>> One of the things that has changed is how one moves staves >>> vertically in >>>>> page view. dragging a staff now drags all staves beneath it. 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