I was working last week putting an "old" bigband score into Finale. I had chords like: C7(-10, -5, -2). Fun.
On 26 dec 2012, at 14:08, Christopher Smith <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > I'm late to the party, but Jim Williams seems to have it worked out correctly. > > I gather that in the young days of complex chord symbols, some arrangers were > still mixing in elements of figured bass, where the notes in a chord took on > the accidental from the KEY they were in, instead of calculated as a fixed > interval above the bass note/root. I've taken note of these to show to my > students, as there is no telling what you might come across in the Wild West > of chord symbols. > > Monk and his peers are well-documented as calling a m5(b5) or > "half-diminished" chord "a minor chord with the sixth in the bass". While it > seems odd to us, it DOES tend to encourage the player to use a certain chord > scale. > > I would definitely edit these to modern (and consistent!) standards, in case > you were still in doubt. > > Christopher > > > On Wed Dec 26, at WednesdayDec 26 1:12 AM, Williams, Jim wrote: > >> Sure...glad to help. >> I see some logic to it now--in D9(flat), the flat 9 is indeed flat--e flat. >> For E9(natural), the flat 9 is F natural. >> Still odd. ;-0 >> >> Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. >> >> On Dec 26, 2012, at 1:03 AM, "dershem" <ders...@cox.net> wrote: >> >>> On 12/25/2012 9:54 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: >>>> Yeah...interesting indeed. Never seen that before. >>>> You've described the chords correctly as 7(b9), so why not go with what >>>> the parts are saying? >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. >>> >>> Thanks, Jim. I appreciate the feedback. It's always useful to have a >>> second opinion. >>> >>> cd >>> >>>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 12:49 AM, "dershem" <ders...@cox.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/25/2012 9:09 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: >>>>>> What do the parts tell you? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. >>>>> >>>>> First one is a D9 - D, F#, A, C, Eb. D7(b9)? >>>>> Second is an E9 - E, G#, B, D, F E7(b9)? >>>>> >>>>> Both have that b7, b9, but both have M3, so not minor 9 chords. >>>>> >>>>> Interesting notation, eh? >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, "Don Hart" <donhartmu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Carl - I've never seen that either. My first guess would be that the >>>>>>> 7th >>>>>>> is assumed and the parenthesized comments concern the ninth in each >>>>>>> chord. >>>>>>> Which chart/arranger? - Don Hart >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:42 PM, dershem <ders...@cox.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm putting an old Kenton chart into Finale (always have a safety copy >>>>>>>> in case some bozo loses or destroys a part!) and have found some chord >>>>>>>> markings that are new to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Measure 1 is D9(flat) >>>>>>>> Measure 6 is E9(natural) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This might be how it was done back in the day, but .. how would these >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> marked now? Is it D9(b???) D7(b9)??? Ummm... new to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any relevant thoughts would be appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carl >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> http://projectselene.com >>> >>> -- >>> http://projectselene.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ======= >>> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >>> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) >>> http://www.pctools.com/ >>> ======= >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale