I was working last week putting an "old" bigband score into Finale. I had 
chords like: C7(-10, -5, -2). Fun. 

On 26 dec 2012, at 14:08, Christopher Smith <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> 
wrote:

> I'm late to the party, but Jim Williams seems to have it worked out correctly.
> 
> I gather that in the young days of complex chord symbols, some arrangers were 
> still mixing in elements of figured bass, where the notes in a chord took on 
> the accidental from the KEY they were in, instead of calculated as a fixed 
> interval above the bass note/root. I've taken note of these to show to my 
> students, as there is no telling what you might come across in the Wild West 
> of chord symbols.
> 
> Monk and his peers are well-documented as calling a m5(b5) or 
> "half-diminished" chord "a minor chord with the sixth in the bass". While it 
> seems odd to us, it DOES tend to encourage the player to use a certain chord 
> scale.
> 
> I would definitely edit these to modern (and consistent!) standards, in case 
> you were still in doubt.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
> On Wed Dec 26, at WednesdayDec 26 1:12 AM, Williams, Jim wrote:
> 
>> Sure...glad to help.
>> I see some logic to it now--in D9(flat), the flat 9 is indeed flat--e flat.
>> For E9(natural), the flat 9 is F natural.
>> Still odd. ;-0
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
>> 
>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 1:03 AM, "dershem" <ders...@cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/25/2012 9:54 PM, Williams, Jim wrote:
>>>> Yeah...interesting indeed. Never seen that before.
>>>> You've described the chords correctly as 7(b9), so why not go with what 
>>>> the parts are saying?
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Jim.  I appreciate the feedback.  It's always useful to have a 
>>> second opinion.
>>> 
>>> cd
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 12:49 AM, "dershem" <ders...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/25/2012 9:09 PM, Williams, Jim wrote:
>>>>>> What do the parts tell you?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
>>>>> 
>>>>> First one is a D9 - D, F#, A, C, Eb.  D7(b9)?
>>>>> Second is an E9 - E, G#, B, D, F      E7(b9)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Both have that b7, b9, but both have M3, so not minor 9 chords.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting notation, eh?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, "Don Hart" <donhartmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Carl - I've never seen that either. My first guess would be that the 
>>>>>>> 7th
>>>>>>> is assumed and the parenthesized comments concern the ninth in each 
>>>>>>> chord.
>>>>>>> Which chart/arranger? - Don Hart
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:42 PM, dershem <ders...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm putting an old Kenton chart into Finale (always have a safety copy
>>>>>>>> in case some bozo loses or destroys a part!) and have found some chord
>>>>>>>> markings that are new to me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Measure 1 is  D9(flat)
>>>>>>>> Measure 6 is  E9(natural)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This might be how it was done back in the day, but .. how would these 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> marked now?  Is it D9(b???)  D7(b9)???  Ummm... new to me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any relevant thoughts would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Carl
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