Phil, if i was doing that task I'd use a sequencer program and a MIDI file, rather than with Finale. You can make sfz's and cresc., dims, fade-outs etc so much more easily by inserting controller messages for attack, volume, velocity, expression etc. In the program I use (XGWorks) I simply select the controller and the pencil tool and draw a sloping line over the required time frame.
Once you have all the notes entered in Finale you can export to MIDI and go from there. I'd be pleased to help if you wish. Peter BTW I'm neither the football manager nor the famous journalist! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Buglass" <bloke...@comcast.net> To: <finale@shsu.edu> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] sforzando-piano [Ok, I guess I can't send the file. At 46KB, it is too big, unless approved by the moderator. So, maybe this message will arrive again later, with the file attached, who knows?] Yeah, I was thinking about the photographer... I am pretty sure that I *am* THE Phil Buglass! I couldn't figure out how to make the 'shape' affect the sound. It didn't seem to matter how I changed things, the sound was just the same - or as far as I could tell. I ended up having a fortissimo 8th note, followed by a roll, crescendoing from piano to FFF. That gives me the punch I was looking for - and this is to be played by the computer, rather than looked at by musicians. I am working on a piece to be played in church in the summer, when we (the choir) aren't singing. What I am getting now, though, is still pretty strange. The roll crescendos nicely till the end of the measure, where the note is tied over to the next measure, and right in the middle of the crescendo. The volume drops, and then starts to crescendo again... I am sending the test file I was working with, so you can see what I mean. It's pretty small, so shouldn't hurt anyone's download speed. The main purpose of this was to figure out how to do a roll properly, and at least that part is working. I am reading up on a bunch of orchestration books, trying to figure this stuff out. Percussion is the biggest bugbear though, they don't use the same notation as 'real' musicians (ducking and running for cover...) Have a listen to this file, and see if it makes sense to you. Thanks, Phil. At 03:34 PM 3/17/2013, you wrote: >Probably not the David Bailey you're thinking about -- I never am. ;-) > >I'm not David Bailey the jazz drummer, nor am I David Bailey the >photographer, nor am I the David Bailey who is a percussionist and >conductor around the greater Boston area. > >There are way too many of me in this world -- Among the people who know >me, I like to consider myself *the* David Bailey. But I'm hardly famous >outside of a small circle of friends. :-) > >Concerning the playback, I didn't know if it was a shape that had been >defined for playback or a single controller such as Velocity. > >David H. Bailey > > > >On 3/17/2013 9:12 AM, Phil Buglass wrote: > > I guess you mean the 'shape' of it? I have > > looked at that, and I really haven't got a > > clue. I think it must be velocity, but looking > > at some of the shapes there, I really can't tell > > what they are doing - or how! > > > > When I get back from church, I will dig into the > > manual, but I suspect that this is a bit too > deep to be covered much in there. > > > > If you could give a hint, I would be grateful. > > > > You aren't *the* David Bailey, are you? > > > > Phil. > > > > At 06:50 AM 3/17/2013, you wrote: > >> On 3/16/2013 10:36 PM, Phil Buglass wrote: > >>> I have a tympani roll that I want to be hit hard, > >>> then immediately drop to almost nothing and > >>> crescendo. I haven't really messed with > >>> percussion much, but I have the roll I want, and > >>> the crescendo is fine. I can't seem to get it > >>> *hit* hard enough (or at all!). The expressions > >>> dialogue has a 'sffz', but again, there is not enough *attack*. > >>> > >>> Is there something I am missing here? > >>> > >> > >> Edit the playback aspect of the definition to give you the hit that you > >> want. > >> > >> -- > >> David H. Bailey > >> dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com > >> http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. > > Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." Groucho Marx > > _______________________________________________ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > > > >-- >David H. Bailey >dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com >http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." Groucho Marx _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6184 - Release Date: 03/17/13 _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
