Very useful Chris, thanks. On Windows it's Ctrl+= in Speedy for the second time ending backwards tie, and it only plays back properly when there is a final note in the bar *before* the first time ending - i.e. the note that ties to the second ending. Strangely it doesn't matter whether or not that note actually has its forward tie!
The other problem I've found is when the last note in a first ending is tied back to the first note at the beginning of the repeated section, i.e. back to the forward repeat sign. When the tie in the first ending is entered normally with = in Speedy, the note will tie to the first note in the second ending, with which it should have no connection, and it needs adjustment with the tie tool. And you can't use Ctrl+= to enter a backwards tie at the forward repeat sign. The tie never plays back properly either - the note at the beginning of the repeated section is always struck again on the repeat. This happens regularly for me, for example when inner parts are playing syncopated rhythms with ties across barlines. I forget about using ties altogether and enter them as slurs when I'm using the smart shape tool, and adjust them as I go. There's a workaround for proper playback, but it's a bit too complicated to explain here. Peter From: "Christopher Smith" <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> To: <finale@shsu.edu> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Backward Slur > That's a tie. For a slur, attach it as a Smart Shape as usual, then drag > the right end backwards. In fact, I have sometimes used slurs when I > couldn't get the backwards tie to work, because they look pretty much > alike, depending on your settings. > > Apparently, the second-ending tie end is made with opt = on my Mac (would > that be alt = on Windows?) But it only works if there are notes in the > FIRST ending, last measure, which is not always the case. It also only > works when there IS a second ending, so you can't get it to work on say, > the first measure of a coda. > > A kludge I have used before is to put in a normal forward tie, then use > the Special Tool to drag the right end backwards, just like I did with a > slur. This can get complicated if the note is also tied for the next > several notes, as I have to keep repeating the procedure until I get to > the last tied note. > > Christopher > > > > On Wed Apr 9, at WednesdayApr 9 4:39 AM, marcellon...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I'm not using Fin2012 yet, on 2011 it was: >> - create second ending >> - insert note >> - in Windows, ctrl+ would make the backward slur >> >> but several times I experimented that this does not always work and I >> could not find the reason. >> I also tried to modify the slur through the Edit frame window but >> without success... >> >> >> >> Il 09/04/2014 10:11, Giovanni Andreani ha scritto: >>> I can't manage the way to generate a backward slur in Fin 2014 (from the >>> first note in a second ending measure). >>> I remember doing it in Fin 2012 and just can't recall how. >>> >>> Giovanni >>> >>> >>> -------- >>> >>> Giovanni Andreani >>> >>> www.giovanniandreani.eu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3882/7318 - Release Date: 04/08/14 > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
