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> On Dec 6, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Dean Rosenthal <deanrosent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have to reiterate my belief again that Finale, for all its wonders, needs
> to offer beta-versions to power-users – dozens of them – on a volunteer
> basis before their releases. Many issues throughout all versions could be
> avoided if enough hardcore pros tested out their normal workflows. In-house
> expertise can only go so far.
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:00 PM, <finale-requ...@shsu.edu> wrote:
>> 
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>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>   1. Finale 2014.5 and Garritan (David Froom SMCM)
>>   2. Re: Finale 2014.5 and Garritan (Chuck Israels)
>>   3. Re: Finale 2014.5 and Garritan (David H. Bailey)
>>   4. Re: Finale Digest, Vol 149, Issue 2 (Alberto Guzm?n Naranjo)
>>   5. Re: Finale Digest, Vol 149, Issue 2 (Chuck Israels)
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Froom SMCM <dfr...@smcm.edu>
>> To: <finale@shsu.edu>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 13:39:10 -0500
>> Subject: [Finale] Finale 2014.5 and Garritan
>> I recently upgraded to 2014.5 (Mac).  I have the full Garritan, but
>> occasionally use the Finale version for the non-orchestral instruments
>> included. After the upgrade, the full Garritan is fine, but the others have
>> disappeared, except, oddly, a single instrument (viola).  This is so, now
>> for both versions (2014 and 2014.5).  Clearly the instrument location has
>> changed, and Finale doesn't know to where.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a suggestion of what I should do to fix this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> David Froom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net>
>> To: <finale@shsu.edu>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 11:20:12 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2014.5 and Garritan
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> Just encountered the same problem!
>> 
>> No solution yet.
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 10:39 AM, David Froom SMCM <dfr...@smcm.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I recently upgraded to 2014.5 (Mac).  I have the full Garritan, but
>> occasionally use the Finale version for the non-orchestral instruments
>> included. After the upgrade, the full Garritan is fine, but the others have
>> disappeared, except, oddly, a single instrument (viola).  This is so, now
>> for both versions (2014 and 2014.5).  Clearly the instrument location has
>> changed, and Finale doesn't know to where.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a suggestion of what I should do to fix this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> David Froom
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>> 
>> Chuck Israels
>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net>
>> (360) 201-3434
>> 
>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>> Portland Or 97202
>> 
>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "David H. Bailey" <dhbaile...@comcast.net>
>> To: <finale@shsu.edu>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 17:25:42 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2014.5 and Garritan
>> I notice the Finale-employees who are members of this list are noticeably
>> quiet these days.  I would think they would be jumping in to offer
>> solutions to these new problems that are cropping up.
>> 
>> Definitely troubling that such things weren't discovered in beta testing
>> of this new half-version.
>> 
>> David H. Bailey
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/5/2015 2:20 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> Just encountered the same problem!
>>> 
>>> No solution yet.
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 10:39 AM, David Froom SMCM <dfr...@smcm.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I recently upgraded to 2014.5 (Mac).  I have the full Garritan, but
>>>> occasionally use the Finale version for the non-orchestral instruments
>>>> included. After the upgrade, the full Garritan is fine, but the others have
>>>> disappeared, except, oddly, a single instrument (viola).  This is so, now
>>>> for both versions (2014 and 2014.5).  Clearly the instrument location has
>>>> changed, and Finale doesn't know to where.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion of what I should do to fix this?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David Froom
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Finale mailing list
>>>> Finale@shsu.edu
>>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Chuck Israels
>>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net>
>>> (360) 201-3434
>>> 
>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>>> Portland Or 97202
>>> 
>>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com>
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> David H. Bailey
>> dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
>> http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Alberto Guzmán Naranjo" <albe...@gmail.com>
>> To: Finale lista de correo <finale@shsu.edu>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 20:15:24 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 149, Issue 2
>> Chuck Israels: I need your advise: I have written to the finale@shsu.edu
>> but no one answers to me.
>> Finale 2014.5 starts play back the file and the program shuts down.
>> When I restart the file nothing happens.
>> I don't understand how this happens
>> please any idea?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
>> Director de Orquesta - Compositor
>> Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2015-12-05 13:00 GMT-05:00 <finale-requ...@shsu.edu>:
>> 
>>> Send Finale mailing list submissions to
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>>> than "Re: Contents of Finale digest..."
>>> 
>>> Today's Topics:
>>> 
>>>   1. jw space empty rests plugin problem solved (Chuck Israels)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
>>> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net>
>>> To: <finale@shsu.edu>
>>> Cc: JW Freeware plug-ins for Finale <jwplug...@jwmusic.nu>
>>> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:13:39 -0800
>>> Subject: [Finale] jw space empty rests plugin problem solved
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> This is just an update on the problem I was having - one that seemed
>>> unique to my system.  Others could not duplicate the behavior.
>>> 
>>> The problem was that JWSpaceEmptyRests would run once - maybe twice,
>> after
>>> a complete restart in 2014.5, but it would then hang up and refuse to
>> work.
>>> 
>>> By opening a document in 2014d (while remaining in El Capitan) and
>> running
>>> the plugin (in which environment it behaved normally), the problem was
>>> solved when moving back to 2014.5.  Somehow, that procedure “cleared” the
>>> hang up.
>>> 
>>> I don’t understand how this happened, but I am grateful for the result
>> and
>>> offer this experience for whatever information it may contain that may be
>>> useful for others.  It’s a mystery to me.
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck Israels
>>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net>
>>> (360) 201-3434
>>> 
>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>>> Portland Or 97202
>>> 
>>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net>
>> To: <finale@shsu.edu>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 17:20:38 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 149, Issue 2
>> Dear Alberto,
>> 
>> I wish I could help, but I have no answer to this problem.
>> 
>> Perhaps you can call Finale Support at 1 (952) 937-9703 on Monday morning.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo <albe...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chuck Israels: I need your advise: I have written to the finale@shsu.edu
>>> but no one answers to me.
>>> Finale 2014.5 starts play back the file and the program shuts down.
>>> When I restart the file nothing happens.
>>> I don't understand how this happens
>>> please any idea?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
>>> Director de Orquesta - Compositor
>>> Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2015-12-05 13:00 GMT-05:00 <finale-requ...@shsu.edu>:
>>> 
>>>> Send Finale mailing list submissions to
>>>>       finale@shsu.edu
>>>> 
>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>>>       https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>>       finale-requ...@shsu.edu
>>>> 
>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>>       finale-ow...@shsu.edu
>>>> 
>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>>> than "Re: Contents of Finale digest..."
>>>> 
>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>> 
>>>>  1. jw space empty rests plugin problem solved (Chuck Israels)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
>>>> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net>
>>>> To: <finale@shsu.edu>
>>>> Cc: JW Freeware plug-ins for Finale <jwplug...@jwmusic.nu>
>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:13:39 -0800
>>>> Subject: [Finale] jw space empty rests plugin problem solved
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> This is just an update on the problem I was having - one that seemed
>>>> unique to my system.  Others could not duplicate the behavior.
>>>> 
>>>> The problem was that JWSpaceEmptyRests would run once - maybe twice,
>> after
>>>> a complete restart in 2014.5, but it would then hang up and refuse to
>> work.
>>>> 
>>>> By opening a document in 2014d (while remaining in El Capitan) and
>> running
>>>> the plugin (in which environment it behaved normally), the problem was
>>>> solved when moving back to 2014.5.  Somehow, that procedure “cleared”
>> the
>>>> hang up.
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t understand how this happened, but I am grateful for the result
>> and
>>>> offer this experience for whatever information it may contain that may
>> be
>>>> useful for others.  It’s a mystery to me.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck Israels
>>>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net>
>>>> (360) 201-3434
>>>> 
>>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>>>> Portland Or 97202
>>>> 
>>>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Finale mailing list
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>>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
>>>> 
>>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:
>>>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
>>>> 
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>> 
>> Chuck Israels
>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net>
>> (360) 201-3434
>> 
>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>> Portland Or 97202
>> 
>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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