Well, the users here have identified a whole bunch of problems, within a week or so of the release. If they *are* doing this, then they are picking the wrong people, obviously!
I am just a hobbyist, and not in the same league as a bunch of the power-users who post here. I wouldn't be a whole lot of use to them, but a significant subset of this group *would*... On 12/6/2015 10:46 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: > What makes you think they don't? > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 6, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Dean Rosenthal <deanrosent...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have to reiterate my belief again that Finale, for all its wonders, needs >> to offer beta-versions to power-users – dozens of them – on a volunteer >> basis before their releases. Many issues throughout all versions could be >> avoided if enough hardcore pros tested out their normal workflows. In-house >> expertise can only go so far. >> >>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:00 PM, <finale-requ...@shsu.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Send Finale mailing list submissions to >>> finale@shsu.edu >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> finale-requ...@shsu.edu >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> finale-ow...@shsu.edu >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Finale digest..." >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Finale 2014.5 and Garritan (David Froom SMCM) >>> 2. Re: Finale 2014.5 and Garritan (Chuck Israels) >>> 3. Re: Finale 2014.5 and Garritan (David H. Bailey) >>> 4. Re: Finale Digest, Vol 149, Issue 2 (Alberto Guzm?n Naranjo) >>> 5. Re: Finale Digest, Vol 149, Issue 2 (Chuck Israels) >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Froom SMCM <dfr...@smcm.edu> >>> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >>> Cc: >>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 13:39:10 -0500 >>> Subject: [Finale] Finale 2014.5 and Garritan >>> I recently upgraded to 2014.5 (Mac). I have the full Garritan, but >>> occasionally use the Finale version for the non-orchestral instruments >>> included. After the upgrade, the full Garritan is fine, but the others have >>> disappeared, except, oddly, a single instrument (viola). This is so, now >>> for both versions (2014 and 2014.5). Clearly the instrument location has >>> changed, and Finale doesn't know to where. >>> >>> Does anyone have a suggestion of what I should do to fix this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> David Froom >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> >>> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >>> Cc: >>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 11:20:12 -0800 >>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2014.5 and Garritan >>> Hi David, >>> >>> Just encountered the same problem! >>> >>> No solution yet. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 10:39 AM, David Froom SMCM <dfr...@smcm.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> I recently upgraded to 2014.5 (Mac). I have the full Garritan, but >>> occasionally use the Finale version for the non-orchestral instruments >>> included. After the upgrade, the full Garritan is fine, but the others have >>> disappeared, except, oddly, a single instrument (viola). This is so, now >>> for both versions (2014 and 2014.5). Clearly the instrument location has >>> changed, and Finale doesn't know to where. >>>> Does anyone have a suggestion of what I should do to fix this? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> David Froom >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>> Chuck Israels >>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> >>> (360) 201-3434 >>> >>> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >>> Portland Or 97202 >>> >>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "David H. Bailey" <dhbaile...@comcast.net> >>> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >>> Cc: >>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 17:25:42 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2014.5 and Garritan >>> I notice the Finale-employees who are members of this list are noticeably >>> quiet these days. I would think they would be jumping in to offer >>> solutions to these new problems that are cropping up. >>> >>> Definitely troubling that such things weren't discovered in beta testing >>> of this new half-version. >>> >>> David H. Bailey >>> >>> >>>> On 12/5/2015 2:20 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi David, >>>> >>>> Just encountered the same problem! >>>> >>>> No solution yet. >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 10:39 AM, David Froom SMCM <dfr...@smcm.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I recently upgraded to 2014.5 (Mac). I have the full Garritan, but >>>>> occasionally use the Finale version for the non-orchestral instruments >>>>> included. After the upgrade, the full Garritan is fine, but the others >>>>> have >>>>> disappeared, except, oddly, a single instrument (viola). This is so, now >>>>> for both versions (2014 and 2014.5). Clearly the instrument location has >>>>> changed, and Finale doesn't know to where. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion of what I should do to fix this? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> David Froom >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>>>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>>>> >>>> Chuck Israels >>>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> >>>> (360) 201-3434 >>>> >>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >>>> Portland Or 97202 >>>> >>>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> David H. Bailey >>> dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com >>> http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "Alberto Guzmán Naranjo" <albe...@gmail.com> >>> To: Finale lista de correo <finale@shsu.edu> >>> Cc: >>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 20:15:24 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 149, Issue 2 >>> Chuck Israels: I need your advise: I have written to the finale@shsu.edu >>> but no one answers to me. >>> Finale 2014.5 starts play back the file and the program shuts down. >>> When I restart the file nothing happens. >>> I don't understand how this happens >>> please any idea? >>> >>> >>> >>> Alberto Guzmán Naranjo >>> Director de Orquesta - Compositor >>> Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle >>> >>> >>> >>> 2015-12-05 13:00 GMT-05:00 <finale-requ...@shsu.edu>: >>> >>>> Send Finale mailing list submissions to >>>> finale@shsu.edu >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> finale-requ...@shsu.edu >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> finale-ow...@shsu.edu >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Finale digest..." >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. jw space empty rests plugin problem solved (Chuck Israels) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- >>>> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> >>>> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >>>> Cc: JW Freeware plug-ins for Finale <jwplug...@jwmusic.nu> >>>> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:13:39 -0800 >>>> Subject: [Finale] jw space empty rests plugin problem solved >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> This is just an update on the problem I was having - one that seemed >>>> unique to my system. Others could not duplicate the behavior. >>>> >>>> The problem was that JWSpaceEmptyRests would run once - maybe twice, >>> after >>>> a complete restart in 2014.5, but it would then hang up and refuse to >>> work. >>>> By opening a document in 2014d (while remaining in El Capitan) and >>> running >>>> the plugin (in which environment it behaved normally), the problem was >>>> solved when moving back to 2014.5. Somehow, that procedure “cleared” the >>>> hang up. >>>> >>>> I don’t understand how this happened, but I am grateful for the result >>> and >>>> offer this experience for whatever information it may contain that may be >>>> useful for others. It’s a mystery to me. >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck Israels >>>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> >>>> (360) 201-3434 >>>> >>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >>>> Portland Or 97202 >>>> >>>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> >>> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >>> Cc: >>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 17:20:38 -0800 >>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 149, Issue 2 >>> Dear Alberto, >>> >>> I wish I could help, but I have no answer to this problem. >>> >>> Perhaps you can call Finale Support at 1 (952) 937-9703 on Monday morning. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo <albe...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Chuck Israels: I need your advise: I have written to the finale@shsu.edu >>>> but no one answers to me. >>>> Finale 2014.5 starts play back the file and the program shuts down. >>>> When I restart the file nothing happens. >>>> I don't understand how this happens >>>> please any idea? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Alberto Guzmán Naranjo >>>> Director de Orquesta - Compositor >>>> Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2015-12-05 13:00 GMT-05:00 <finale-requ...@shsu.edu>: >>>> >>>>> Send Finale mailing list submissions to >>>>> finale@shsu.edu >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> finale-requ...@shsu.edu >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> finale-ow...@shsu.edu >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of Finale digest..." >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. jw space empty rests plugin problem solved (Chuck Israels) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- >>>>> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> >>>>> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >>>>> Cc: JW Freeware plug-ins for Finale <jwplug...@jwmusic.nu> >>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:13:39 -0800 >>>>> Subject: [Finale] jw space empty rests plugin problem solved >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> This is just an update on the problem I was having - one that seemed >>>>> unique to my system. Others could not duplicate the behavior. >>>>> >>>>> The problem was that JWSpaceEmptyRests would run once - maybe twice, >>> after >>>>> a complete restart in 2014.5, but it would then hang up and refuse to >>> work. >>>>> By opening a document in 2014d (while remaining in El Capitan) and >>> running >>>>> the plugin (in which environment it behaved normally), the problem was >>>>> solved when moving back to 2014.5. Somehow, that procedure “cleared” >>> the >>>>> hang up. >>>>> >>>>> I don’t understand how this happened, but I am grateful for the result >>> and >>>>> offer this experience for whatever information it may contain that may >>> be >>>>> useful for others. It’s a mystery to me. >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Israels >>>>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> >>>>> (360) 201-3434 >>>>> >>>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >>>>> Portland Or 97202 >>>>> >>>>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>>>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>> Chuck Israels >>> cisra...@comcast.net <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> >>> (360) 201-3434 >>> >>> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >>> Portland Or 97202 >>> >>> <chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dean Rosenthal >> www.deanrosenthal.org >> www.stonespiece.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
