Really appreciate the feedback. What I'm hearing is, suck it up until I'm
finished with this orchestration, then upgrade to Finale 2014.5, especially
because I heard 2012 has problems with .asv files (which would really scare
me, because I average a few crashes a month). Anyone have an experience
with 2014.5 that would contraindicate?

And btw, when I created the new file, they had the same problem with the
'measure number' boxes being unchecked in the 'Items to display' menu under
'staff attributes' for about half the staves.  Weird.

Thanks again,
                 Mike

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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:08:50 -0600
> From: Jon Block <jbloc...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Why Is It So Hard to Add Instruments to an
>         Orchestration?
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> Keep away from 2014 and 2014b at all costs!
> They are filled with impossible bugs.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 2:04 AM, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On 6/3/2016 9:08 PM, Michael Dutka wrote:
> > > Hi, folks. Running 2010 on a Macbook pro.
> > >
> > > Orchestrating an opera from a series of piano reductions, which I
> import
> > > into a standard orchestra template, with a standard two-stave piano
> line
> > > between the singers and the strings (then I delete the piano line when
> > I'm
> > > done with each number).
> > >
> > > This particular number needed a harp, and since the piano score was a
> > means
> > > to an end, I just tried to convert the piano line into a harp in the
> > > instrument list (GM = Orchestral Harp, but under instrument, it
> wouldn't
> > > let me plug in a harp, it just came out as Instrument 33). It sounded
> > like
> > > a flute.
> > >
> > > Created a new harp line using New Staves (with setup Wizard). This time
> > it
> > > sounded like a harp. Then, in playback, so did the flute. Changed the
> > flute
> > > to sound like a flute, and the harp sounded like a flute as well.
> > >
> > > Finally, created a whole new orchestra and imported the file, which
> > worked
> > > after a bit of manipulation. But why is it so difficult to just add a
> new
> > > instrument? I had the same issues when I tried to add a solo violin
> line
> > to
> > > an orchestration.
> > >
> >
> >
> > It sounds as if somehow your flute staff and your new harp staff are set
> > to the same midi channel number.  Change that for one of the staves and
> > then assign the correct instrument patch to each staff and you should be
> > able to get them to sound correctly.
> >
> >
> > --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:16:43 -0700
> From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net>
> Subject: [Finale] Why Is It So Hard to Add Instruments to an
>         Orchestration?
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> John,  This has not been my experience.  Familiarity with how 2014
> operates (and there have been some changes since 2012) allows things to
> work at least as easily and, in some cases, more easily than they do in
> 2012.  I believe this will be the prevailing opinion.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> Chuck Israels
> cisra...@comcast.net
> (360) 201-3434
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> Portland OR 97202
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 19:47:41 -0600
> From: Jon Block <jbloc...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Why Is It So Hard to Add Instruments to an
>         Orchestration?
> To: finale@shsu.edu
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> Chuck:
> There are some major issues with 2014b.  Playback does not stop when one
> hits stop; orchestral scores cause glitches in notation.  I have had to
> delete the preferences file each time I start inputs to my orchestral
> scores.  MakeMusic has confirmed these are issues without a fix at present.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 4, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > John,  This has not been my experience.  Familiarity with how 2014
> operates (and there have been some changes since 2012) allows things to
> work at least as easily and, in some cases, more easily than they do in
> 2012.  I believe this will be the prevailing opinion.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > Chuck Israels
> > cisra...@comcast.net
> > (360) 201-3434
> >
> > 8831 SE 12th Ave.
> > Portland OR 97202
> >
> > <chuckisraelsjazz.com>
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:49:04 +0000
> From: Dr. Raphael D. Th?ne
>         <raphael.tho...@drraphaeldthone.onmicrosoft.com>
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Why Is It So Hard to Add Instruments to   an
>         Orchestration?
> To: "finale@shsu.edu" <finale@shsu.edu>
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> Why are using 2014b and not 2014.5? I am using 2014.5 on PC and Mac and
> have noticed major performance improvements and less bugs.
> Best
> Raphael.
>
>
>
> > Am 05.06.2016 um 03:47 schrieb Jon Block <jbloc...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Chuck:
> > There are some major issues with 2014b.  Playback does not stop when one
> hits stop; orchestral scores cause glitches in notation.  I have had to
> delete the preferences file each time I start inputs to my orchestral
> scores.  MakeMusic has confirmed these are issues without a fix at present.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 4, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> John,  This has not been my experience.  Familiarity with how 2014
> operates (and there have been some changes since 2012) allows things to
> work at least as easily and, in some cases, more easily than they do in
> 2012.  I believe this will be the prevailing opinion.
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>
> >> Chuck Israels
> >> cisra...@comcast.net
> >> (360) 201-3434
> >>
> >> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
> >> Portland OR 97202
> >>
> >> <chuckisraelsjazz.com>
> >>
> >>
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