On 3/21/02 10:31, "Stephen Winson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 09:56 AM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
>> No, it actually runs alongside Aqua.  There's even a rootless server,
>> where
>> the X11 windows and Aqua ones are both visible.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, if I want to use the GIMP, XMMS or any of the other GUI-based
>>> apps
>>> that are available via fink, do I have to be running X11 or will they
>>> run under Aqua?
>> 
>> No, you have to run X11
>> 
>>> 
> 
> OK, that's more than fine if it can run alongside, as the only apps I
> NEED run under Aqua.  The ones that merely make life easier are the X11
> apps.
> 
> Now, I expect people to try to convince me to use the fink-based
> install, but if I go download the monolithic XDarwin installer, will the
> X11 apps I get through fink work under XDarwin.  Is XDarwin actually the
> same thing as what I'm getting through Fink?  I ask, because XDarwin
> claims full 4.2.0, whereas in the Fink packages, it's showing up as
> 4.1.99.2001...this being important to me, as have several Radeon cards,
> and 4.1 doesn't appear to support Radeon cards, and 4.2 does.
> 

There are two options here.

1)  4.2 _is_ available under fink, although it is still listed as unstable,
so it's not visible in the default list.  It can still be installed, in the
forms of the xfree86-base and xfree86-rootless packages, with just a little
extra work (copy a few files).  Check out

http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-fink.php#unstable

for more information.

2) You can use the binary installer, and install the fink system-xfree86
package.  However,  the system-xfree86 package shows a 4.1 suffix, so it may
not work properly with 4.2 .

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