On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 10:27 am, David wrote:
I give a damn on being on the front page of freshmeat, to be honest.
But I do. Exposure is the one key issue, which will, amongst other
things, keep Fink alive and kicking. The fact, that Fink really is a
two part effort (package manager + all the packages) has never really
been shown to the better of the users. Freshmeat is often visited by
developers, much less by users, at least that is what I could learn in
my personal experience over the years. Someone might be interested in
simply developing for the package manager without installing the whole
"distribution".
However, I do not quite see why we could not release it as a separate
project. It shows, that we are gaining popularity by the moment we
are exposing ourselves. Reading over the stats for the project that
shows clearly.
What is this sudden obsession with popularity and forcing ourselves
down the public's throat all the time? I really don't get it. Sure,
it's nice to be noticed, but it's better to be noticed legitimately
than repeatedly spam freshmeat. I also highly doubt that most freshmeat
readers would be interested in Fink, unless of course you were planning
on targeting the OS X section, which has a very small reader base
anyway AFAICT and so making your entire "exposure" issue go down the
plug hole.
Furthermore, I see no point in making daily snapshots. What would be
gained by this over just injecting a cvs checkout?
That you have a time frame. For example "do not check in a highly
volatile patch before 10pm, because it might break the whole app. The
snap is made at 10:30pm thus it ensures, that the daily snap is
"stable".
Anyways, it is not necessary, it was merely a suggestion.
We don't really need daily snapshots of the package manager, as it
doesn't change all that often and the in-between releases have quite a
small target audience (basically the core fink developers and any users
who want to live on the bleeding edge).
In fact, I see no reason to wait till friday with the release as you
requested <shrug>. I can release today, or tomorrow, or saturday, not
friday, but where is the point in waiting?
Wendsday and Thursday are never good release days, because they are in
the middle of the week and people tend to get very busy. The news
editors and news site also accumulate a lot of news from the weekend
to about Tuesday, Wendsday. There are also various acclaimed studies
which seem to show that middle of the week announcements are treated
less interested than end of the week or start of the week
announcements. Thus, out of a very old habit I try to keep it that > way.
Sure, this makes sense... IF MAXIMUM PRESS EXPOSURE REALLY MATTERS TO
YOU. I don't think it does to us -- it certainly doesn't to me, and Max
has indicated that it's not one of his priorities either. I would say
that it's more important to release when things are ready for projects
like Fink -- pointless delays will only keep users in the dark and slow
things down.
The second and much more interesting reason is, that I was away from
Thursday to Tuesday on a business Trip. I did not bring my Computer,
so I need to catch up. Both on my work accounts and Fink.
Hum... Not trying to be rude, but why does this matter?
-- Finlay
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