Sorry if this question has been discussed, I couldn't find anything in
the archives.  I'm also not totally sure if the fink-users list is the
right place for this, but I thought I'd give it a shot.  Any help
would be much appreciated!

I'm having trouble with XDarwin in rootless mode when using it with a
window manager that implements multiple virtual desktops, such as dtwm
(which is part of cde) or xfce.  XDarwin quits every now and then.  It
seems to happen when I switch desktops in xfce/dtwm AND I'm running
some other memory-hogging OS X app such as Word or Excel.  This
behavior occurs when I'm running XDarwin + xfce locally, and when I'm
running XDarwin locally and dtwm remote from my solaris 7 box.
XDarwin does NOT crash in rooted mode with either local xfce or remote
dtwm.

The version of XDarwin I installed is XFree86 4.2.0-XDarwin1.1 from
the dmg package from http://www.osxgnu.org/software/Xwin/xfree86/ (via
pointers from the Apple downloads site).

So my first question is: (1) Has anyone else had a crash problem with
rootless XDarwin and either xfce or dtwm?

I have subsequently installed a number of emacsen from source using
fink (Package manager version: 0.9.12; Distribution version:
0.4.0.cvs).  These installations placed a system-xfree86 placeholder
in my fink distribution because I already had X11 through the osxgnu
dmg package, if I understand correctly.

But given the XDarwin crashes, I thought maybe there was something
wrong with the dmg version I used, so I tried fink install
xfree86-rootless today.  But it fails with the following errors:

------------
sudo /sw/bin/fink install xfree86-rootless
Password:
Information about 564 packages read in 4 seconds.
The following additional package will be installed:
 xfree86-base
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
dpkg -i 
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86-base_4.2.0-4_darwin-powerpc.deb
dpkg: regarding .../xfree86-base_4.2.0-4_darwin-powerpc.deb containing xfree86-base:
 system-xfree86 conflicts with x11
  xfree86-base provides x11 and is to be installed.
dpkg: error processing 
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86-base_4.2.0-4_darwin-powerpc.deb
 (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing xfree86-base
Errors were encountered while processing:
 
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/xfree86-base_4.2.0-4_darwin-powerpc.deb
### dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't install package xfree86-base-4.2.0-4
---------------

My second question is: (2) Does it make any sense for me to be trying
to install XDarwin via fink when I already have the binaries via
osxgnu?  I have looked at the Fink X11 documentation, but I'm still
not totally clear about how these distributions differ from each
other.

If so, then (3): what am I doing wrong in trying to install
xfree86-rootless via fink?

I'd be very grateful for any help.  Rooted XDarwin is very good, but
rootless XDarwin with virtual desktops (xfce or dtwm) is amazing, if I
could get it to not crash!


Thanks,
Prahlad







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