I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but whenever I start X, Gnome acts
like it is starting using Sawfish, but stops with the background color of
the desktop along with the little tip Gnome tip window that one can toggle
on and off.  That is all that appears. No icons, no menu bars, nothing.
Clicking on the screen with the mouse has no effect. I have removed Fink and
Xfree86 and reinstalled numerous times and it always is the same. I have
been able to remove Sawfish and just use Enlightenment and it will start up.
When I do start X with Enlightenment and I switch to Sawfish or any other
WM, XDarwin will quit if I try and keep the new WM.

When I remove Fink, I type "sudo rm -rf /sw" and to remove Xfree 86 I type
"sudo rm -rf /usr/X11R6 /etc/X11 /Applications/XDarwin.app" as on the Fink
web site. It does remove them but there must be somewhere else that some
files live because when Sawfish attempts to start, the desktop background
that comes up is not the default color for Sawfish. It is one that I saved
the last time I got the Gnome/Sawfish thing  working. When I reinstall
XFree86 instead of  an "Install" button, it says "Update".

I have the same setup and settings on my Powerbook and everything works just
fine; .xinitrc file included.

I used the "dselect" command to install Gnome and others, not Fink (after I
had installed Fink). Someone else had mentioned to me at an earlier time
that "dselect" was easier to use because everything was already compiled
because Fink kept squawking that it couldn't find a compiler.

If anyone can make any sense of my ramblings and would care to comment,
please do.

Rob 


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