I need to open my big mouth here...:)

On Sunday, July 21, 2002, at 11:08 AM, Curtis Vaughan wrote:

> In addendum:
>
> I'm not really interested in server solutions - yet.
>
> I wanted to add the following, however, to my original post.
>
> One of the main features I would probably have to use if I were to advise 
> OS X on future laptops would be a KDE desktop.  Judging by posts I'm 
> assuming this is possible.
> However, I am wondering also, if I were to use KDE with OS X, is Aqua 
> still running simultaneously?  Or is it like on Linux, you boot into 1 
> Xserver environment?
...

>> Problems.
>> OS X is not really that close to what I've been trying to steer our 
>> organization toward - i.e., Debian Linux.  However, I have just begun 
>> looking into what I'll call the Fink project, which could bring me back 
>> to something more familiar.
>> OS X is not a free OS like Linux.  Your still stuck in the pay for 
>> licenses situation. Something we were trying to get away from.

If cost is an issue, then the price of the OS X licenses is the least of 
your problems. If you really
want to go the cheap route, the solution would be to download a Debian ISO 
and install it on
your existing PCs and find a manufacturer that pre-installs Linux when you'
re buying new.

There is a continuing debate that Macintoshes appear to be more expensive 
up front, but cost
less to own in the long-term. Start here 
http://www.cmi.k12.il.us/Urbana/ymac.htm
and you'll find tons of info & links that support the Mac. (I tend to 
believe it :)

IMHO, Unfortunately, KDE, Gnome, et.al. do *not* look good side-by-side 
with Mac OS X, what with
the polished look-&-feel and smooth fonts, and the performance is less than 
stellar. If you want to
run only Darwin + KDE, then the question arises, what's the point of 
getting Macs? They'll come
pre-installed with OS X anyway.

To answer another topic - I haven't read too deeply into it, but it appears 
that you can get Linux
laptops, without the MS Tax if you work hard enough to find them  --
http://mobilix.org/mylaptops.html

>>
>> So, I have a few more days to play around with OS X before I have my last 
>> opportunity to return the computer for a refund and I am wondering what 
>> other people more used to OS X would advise.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Curtis
>>

Good luck to you. Whatever direction you take, I hope we get to hear a 
progress report sometime in
the future about yet another organization recovering from addiction 
problems ;-)
Ken Engel



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