Ian L. sez: } On 9/5/02 7:36 PM, Scott Atchley enlightened us with: } } >> Anyone know of a more mac like xterm with a scroll bar that works in } >> XFree86. The XDarwin's rootless window server xterm doesn't have a } >> scroll bar. I tried OroboOSX 0.8 and although its xterm has a scroll } >> bar it doesn't drag scroll AFAIK and I prefer the scroll bar to be on } >> the RHS of the window. } > } > You can get a scrollbar with xterm using -sb. You can set the lines of } > scroll back with -sl n where n is the number of lines. you can move the } > scroll bar to the right with -rightbar. You can speed it up } > dramatically with -j (jump). } } I really like Eterm. It seems to be much faster in scrolling compared to } xterm and rxvt, plus it's got a nice-looking proportional } mouse-wheel-supported scrollbar on the right. } } Let me know if you'd like my ~/.Eterm/user.cfg -- it removes the silly } background images, sets the ANSI colors right, and adds a little bit of } transparency.
Frankly, I'm pretty disgusted by all the xterm clones out there. At least rxvt was trying to be a small memory footprint version, but then we got Eterm and gnome-terminal and Kterm and all the other crap. There are only two features that (some of) these new-fangled terminals have that xterm does not: 1) transparency, and 2) multiple windows from the same process. Transparency is utter crap to begin with. It's vaguely convenient some of the time with Apple's Terminal, but that's because it's actually live and displays whatever is beneath it. The best any of these crappy xterm clones can manage (because of the limitations of X11) is reading the root window's contents and using it to produce their own pixmap background. Furthermore, if your background is interesting then it is hard to read the text in the terminal, and if it isn't interesting then why bother? The multiple windows within the same process amortizes the memory footprint of each window, but it doesn't matter. Most machines these days have plenty of memory, and the xterm instruction memory is shared between instances anyway. While the code itself is rather kludgy, xterm (specifically the XFree86 xterm) is one of the most useful, best executed pieces of software I have ever had the pleasure of using. Want a scrollbar? Set it in an X resource. Want it on the right instead of the left? Same solution. Want the scrollbar and menus to look 3D? Put a symlink to libXaw3d.so named libXaw.so earlier in your library search path, and it will be. Want an absolute minimum of decoration? No problem. Want to bind keys or buttons to do things (like the scrollwheel operating on the scrollbar)? Easily done. Want to change fonts? On the fly? You can do it from a popup menu (granted, it doesn't have a font chooser... because there are other programs to do that job, like xfontsel). } Ian L. --Greg ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
