On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 07:47  AM, Joel Hacker wrote:

>                                       
> On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 05:00 AM, Charlie Allom wrote:
>
>> The Fink project wants to bring the full world of Unix Open Source
>> software to Darwin and Mac OS X.
>> </quote>
>>
>> If you can't differentiate between the idea of UNIX as a set of tools
>> and Linux as a kernel *with the same Open Source tools*, then I would
>> suggest looking into exactly 'how hard' your suggestion may be. Show
>> us the money!
>>
> So, would you mind telling me how it is that making a virtual machine 
> to run open-source software ISN'T bringing open source software to OS 
> X?  Who actually cares if it's Unix or Linux, all the tools are 
> practically the same?  Do you have an actual coherent argument against 
> this idea, or do you simply enjoy insulting people?
>
> As for how hard it would be, I do believe I DID concede that it would 
> be a difficult project, however, maintaining one application to run a 
> virtual machine cannot be as difficult as maintaining 1132 packages in 
> addition to the fink binaries themselves.  Do you have an answer to 
> that, or are you too narrow-minded to conceive of the possibility that 
> a thought by someone who you so obviously despise might have the 
> tiniest bit of merit?

The two problems that come to mind regarding the 10.1 --> 10.2 
transition are the C++ ABI change, and the transition from zsh to bash 
for posix shell shell services. Both of these are caused not by 
incompatibilities in the kernel, but incompatibilities in the 
libraries. A virtual machine running linux would, not, in my opinion, 
resolve these issues.




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