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On Sunday, November 11, 2001, at 05:42  PM, Sander Niemeijer wrote:

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> How about using 'User ID' and 'Nickname'.

No - as I have said before - Nickname is completely overused.  (Nickname 
in ICQ is different than nick on irc, neither of which exist for AIM, 
etc.)

I am leaning toward "Service Name" and "Display Name" right now.

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> I would also prefer an option for the ICQ part to retrieve the nickname 
> a remote user has set. Currently Fire uses the UIN of ICQ if the 
> nickname within Fire is left blank. I would like it to use the nickname 
> the remote user has set in his preferences if I leave the nickname part 
> blank. Is this possible?

Not at this time.

Eric

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> On zondag, november 11, 2001, at 10:57 , Erik Smartt wrote:
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>> Thanks for the great feedback on this issue... it definitely sounds 
>> like the labels could use a little tweaking.
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>> >... "Screen Name" is not universal, and therefore only really clear 
>> to AIM users.
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>> Since I only use a few of the services, can we compile a list of what 
>> all the services call their user handle?  Having the full list will 
>> help us make a better decision about the label.
>>
>>      AOL == Screen Name (and Buddy Name because of the use of "Buddy 
>> List")
>>      Yahoo! == Yahoo! ID
>>      Jabber == generally referred to as an "Account" in the documentation
>>      MSN == ??
>>      icq == ??
>>      IRC == ??
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>> >And, who's to say I am using someone's real name as their display 
>> name.
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>> I thought about this too, because I use nicknames in that field too.  
>> The thing about it though is that you are trying to inform the user as 
>> to the nature and functionality of this field, therefore the label 
>> does not have to be literal, but rather reduce mistakes and explain 
>> the nature of the field and it's content.  I chose "Real Name" for my 
>> build to create a distinct separation between it and the Screen Name.
>>
>> The real question is whether it would confuse a general user if they 
>> prefer to call someone by something other then their legal name.  I'm 
>> not convinced that it would; however, after running way too many 
>> usability tests over the years, I am fully aware that users will 
>> continually surprise you with their behaviors interacting with 
>> technology.
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>> I'll ask a question back then... many email clients use Full Name / 
>> Real Name as a form element when setting up your account (which I see 
>> most people on this list have filled in.)  Did that label ever give 
>> you the impression that you HAD to put your full name in there?  Have 
>> you ever put something other then your full name in there and doubted 
>> whether the application would work?  I'm guessing that such a label 
>> wasn't viewed as strict as it implies, although the people on this 
>> list are also developers and technology enthusiasts, so I would expect 
>> a comfort level in which you would bend the rules on this one.
>>
>> >How about "Remote System ID" and either "Nickname" or "Display Name"
>>
>> "Remote System ID" is *way* too technical for a UI label; However 
>> "Display Name" is a good suggestion as an alternative to "Real Name".  
>> It is a little vague, but it does help create the association between 
>> this field and it's functionality in the application.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   -- Erik
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