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What I think Colter was trying to get across (correct me if I am
wrong) ...
We purposefully do not request that users who are not developing
directly on Fire update their source tree to TOT. The reason for this
being that the application (much of the time) is in flux and not quite
"user" ready.
In this specific case, the Accounts panel is being worked on.
If you do upgrade to TOT, please make sure that you read the readme
(though there is no guarantee that the readme will have the most current
information either :-) ).
I do not think any offense was intended, Colter was just trying to make
a point. (and responding to a few different emails at once ...)
Eric
On Monday, February 18, 2002, at 11:38 AM, Juergen Frank wrote:
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> I think you are doing a great job and I really like the work you do!
>
> What I don't like is your answer to my question! Do you really think
> you did
> it the right way when pointing on me with fingers and call me "Joe User"
> (which is AFAIK what we call in Germany a DAU (=stupidiest thinkable
> user)).
> I'm not in the software development business but also an engineer
> (network
> planning and microwave link design). I wouldn't call you stupid
> although you
> might not know all details for planning links or hugh IP-networks, too.
>
> This was only my opinion but all readers in this list have the same
> opinion
> as you have, I'd unsubscribe immediately. If that's what you intented
> -tell
> me!
>
> Juergen (not listening to 'Joe User')
>
> P.S. May be you only don't like Germans, which -by the way- can't be my
> fault...
>
> P.P.S. This has been my last post to this topic in the list-furter via
> PM!
>
> am 18.02.2002 16:32 Uhr schrieb Colter Reed unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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>> On 2/18/02 07:31, "Juergen Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe a stupid question of a newbie: I had 0.29b installed and
>>> everything
>>> was fine. Now I installed the new TOT from the link (see included
>>> message)
>>> and the interface has changed a little bit and all my accounts are
>>> gone!? Or
>>> aren't they not and I don't find them, only?
>>
>> I don't think it's a good idea to have someone making the TOT builds
>> readily
>> available for your average Joe User to download and run. People who
>> don't
>> understand the software development process are going to come across
>> the
>> file and think they're getting a sweet, new version of Fire with lots
>> of new
>> bells and whistles without realizing the inherent risks. I'll
>> reiterate
>> Eric's warning: The TOT builds are not guaranteed to be anything.
>> Stable?
>> No. User-friendly? No. Take up space on your hard drive? Perhaps.
>> It's
>> not release-quality software. If it was, we'd release a new version.
>> But
>> if you enjoy living on the edge and want to help beta-test Fire and
>> improve
>> it, download the source, waste clock cycles, build your own and run a
>> cvs
>> build.
>>
>> Yes, the UI is changing. Yes, your accounts need to be reentered.
>>
>> On 2/18/02 08:02, "Ryan La Riviere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed that the other day. The account info is now stored in it's
>>> own
>>> file now. Fire doesn't seem to know to move the info from the old
>>> version
>>> to the new format...yet. Hopefully that will be implemented so user
>>> accounts migrate forward when the .30a version is released.
>>
>> No. Account migration will not be implemented. I tried to be
>> accommodating
>> and taught Fire to migrate the location of the application support
>> files,
>> and that caused as many problems as it solved. Having to reenter your
>> account information is a little less traumatic than entering all your
>> buddies again. There will be a note in the ReadMe and that's it.
>>
>> Colter
>>
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