The military in WWI used, and today still uses, short-barreled shotguns, but
they were not sawed-off.  I'm not sure if this makes a difference for 2nd
Amend theory, but it's a fact.

Ray

 

 

 

From: firearmsregprof-boun...@lists.ucla.edu
[mailto:firearmsregprof-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Jon Roland
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:44 AM
To: C. D. Tavares
Cc: Firearmsregprof
Subject: Re: Volokh: California Court of Appeal Upholds Ban

 

C. D. Tavares wrote:



No, what [the Supreme Court in Miller] ruled was that because they had no
evidence that a sawed-off shotgun contributed to the preservation and
efficacy of the militia, it was the job of the subsidiary judge to stop
throwing the case out of court on first principles, and proceed to hold an
actual trial at which such evidence could be presented and weighed.  That
trial was never held, because Miller had since died.  The Miller decision
never actually declared ANY identifiable firearm as unprotected. 

More should be said about the underlying issues in the case. It was about
enforcement of a tax statute, which made it a crime to possess an item on
which a tax had not been paid (and conveniently the government would refuse
to accept payment of the tax if tendered). That in itself was
unconstitutional, but that issue was not raised by appellant. The Court
said, in effect, that if the item had some connection to militia it was
tax-exempt, as were all such items under the original Militia Act of 1792
<http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_act_1792.htm>  (amended in 1795):

... every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with the arms,
ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid, shall hold the same
exempted from all suits, distresses, executions or sales, for debt or for
the payment of taxes.

The problem for the Court is that almost anything can be "accoutrements"
used for militia. If it recognized anything that could be used in militia,
nothing would be taxable. So it had to establish a standard to distinguish
things that were mainly used for militia from things that might be so used
but were mainly used for other purposes.

In fact, sawed-off shotguns were used by military and militia, mainly for
sentry duty.




-- Jon
 
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