On 16/05/2011 14:12, Vlad Khorsun wrote:
>> On 16/05/2011 13:33, Vlad Khorsun wrote:
>>> So, if code calls attach\release - this is bug, as for me, and i see
>>> no reasons
>>> to write code in this way intentionally. I consider at as very bad practice 
>>> as it
>>> could lead to the inexpected side effects (such as implicit rollback).
>>>
>> Now every provider class has a way to "release" with another methods,
>      Again, "release" it not how object should be finally destroyed. It is for
> additional references *only*.
>
This is something new you invented.

>> but take into account that release is base method.
>      Not sure i understand what do you want to say here. addRef\release used
> for reference counting and not for creating\destructing objects.
>
See above.

>> But what about different release-able classes? Are you going to add
>> additional methods to release them, cause release is only for addRef?
>      Again not sure i understand you correctly. Basically, if something have
> *explicit* constructor (attach) it must have explicit destructor (detach). If
> something is not constructed *explicitly* (fb_get_master_interface) it should
> be just release()'ed without additional methods.
>
Everything is constructed explicitly.

>      Yes, in a very simple cases we can omit creation of explicit 
> "destructor" but
> i prefer to have it even in simplest case. Your never know if tomorrow 
> simplest
> thing will not became more complex ;)
>
>      Show me example of what do you mean by "different release-able classes"
> and i'll try to be more precisely.
>
IFirebirdConf and IPluginConf, for example. They're released with release.

The situation with new classes trying to be smart using reference 
counting is still almost unexplained from the POV of why that was done.

Sure you may create artificial and specific examples of where they make 
things to not crash.

But nothing except an atomic counter is currently being cared regard 
MT-safeness. Y-valve has internal state not synchronized, for example. 
Y-valve delegates call to another providers, and they do nothing re. 
died objects to return information.


Adriano


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