On Jul 1, 12:56 pm, Luke Maurer <luke.v.mau...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 1, 11:50 am, Trevan Richins <trich...@omniture.com> wrote:
>
> > I still mistakenly deactivate firebug instead of minimize it and that
> > causes me grief, but I'm getting used to it.
>
> I wouldn't call that "mistaken," I'd call it perfectly reasonable. How
> many UIs do you know that tie a background process like Ajax
> monitoring inextricably to whether a certain window is open or not?
I don't what this has to do with Firebug.
> And by well-understood convention, if you "close" a window but the app
> has a little icon in the bottom-right, it's still doing stuff in the
> background (think of IM clients and the system tray). So there's every
> reason for a user (*especially* those new users that the new
> activation model is supposed to cater to) not to pay attention to the
> difference between minimizing and closing - close means "get this bit
> of UI out of the way," and minimize means "get it mostly out of the
> way."
I think Firebug user will get the hang of it pretty fast, they are are
a smart group.
>
> In short, the little X does not mean deactivate, it means close.
> Having it do something other than close the window is unintuitive
> *and* counterproductive.
I'm not sure what distinction you are making here. If Firebug is open
in the browser and you close it, it is not active for the browser tab.
That seem intuitive to me.
>
> > So, for those that are up in arms against it, just use it for a bit. It
> > remembers the pages that you have previously activated firebug on. It
> > attempts to keep firebug on in the same domain if it is already been open
> > (I've seen some issues with this but never been able to reliably reproduce
> > it so haven't filed a bug on it).
>
> But this is always exactly the problem with software that tries to be
> clever about what the user wants. It never quite works out, and the
> user ends up spending more time working around the software's mistakes
> than was ever saved by the cleverness to begin with.
If you have specific problems I would like to hear about them.
jjb
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