Erik,

I'm not whining, I am lamenting. I said it was a sad day, that is not
whining.  Whining is long , shrill complaining cry, lamenting is an
impassioned expression of grief or sorrow.   I can appreciate your asking
for suggestions and you are probably tired of people complaining about it
and you want to make it better I am sure as you took the time to write as I
am taking the time to write this.  I do not know what prompted this move,
whether it is internal politics, a financial or corporate decision, but it
is a monumental change for the people that develop with Firebug. It's like
using Photoshop for years then one day it is now some program that sort of
does what Photoshop does but it is clunky, missing features and the lasso
tool is now called the snare or lariat tool and you have no choice but to
use it or find a new application.  What do I suggest?  Aside from putting
the Firebug tools as a replacement for the dev-tools, I don't think there
is much you can do, so I feel sad about it.    I saw this change coming
when Firefox introduced the dev-tools and made it easier to right click to
it than to Firebug, I said to my team that this will be the end of Firebug
and we will need to use this new tool.   It's not so much that they can do
the same sort of things but differently, it's also a rote memory issue, I
can click anywhere from memory on all the controls of firebug in an instant
I know the lasso tool is the third tool from the top left of my window.
Now I find myself trying to figure out what this prompt means "The Web
Console logging API (console.log, console.info, console.warn,
console.error) has been disabled by a script on this page" when I open the
console.

There are many good suggestions on the bulletin boards so I don't need to
reiterate them.

I used Firebug mostly for logging events, the net features and writing
styles.  For the console I liked the history function and the side by side
console windows where I can add several lines of code, there seems to be a
button for split console but it does nothing on my version of Firefox,
40.0.2.  Yes, I can stay at the version and continue to run Firebug (I am
quite certain that I cannot have two versions on the same Mac) but I have
been doing this since '92 and I know when it comes to the dreaded "upgrade"
that resistance is futile so it is indeed a sad day to watch Firebug go
away.

Sincerely,

David Smith
Virtuluxe
310 625 7696

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Erik Krause <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 08.12.2016 um 18:21 schrieb [email protected]:
>
> The Firefox dev tools has ruined my development.  Now I need to find a new
>> browser to develop one.  Sad day.
>>
>
> And what is your suggestion? Only to whine is not very productive...
>
> BTW.: You can always go back to an older firefox version:
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-older-version-of-firefox
>
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