At 09:09 AM 4/23/99 -0400, Laris Benkis wrote:

>The device I am looking for is the equivalent of the Security Dynamics
>ACM100 but I want challenge response, not time synch with cards that
>eventually die.

        Just curiousity, but it is that you don't like time-synch
authentication for some practical or philosophical reason?  Great and
rewarding experiences managing a site which uses one of the C/R calculators?  

        Bad experiences with an ACM100?  

         Do you expect your authentication needs to remain unchanged 4-5
years from now?  

        On what do you base your expectations that your  tokens will
continue to be dependable 4-5 years hence?  (Nothing on my desk lasts five
years.  Not even the desk.  OTOH, there are gentlemen like Padgett Peterson
who probably still has a kilobyte or two of An Wang's hand-wound core memory
on his home Lan.)

        No Single Sign-on concerns?  (No network?)  No concern about network
or session encryption to secure your dial-up session against active network
attacks and session hijacking?

         (I'm an consultant to SDTI,  and less than wholly objective, but I
always thought those  ACM hardware boxes were  the world's most
heavily-tested and widely-installed strong  authentication appliance for a
reason.  Virtually every US (and Canadian;-) telephone company surveyed the
alternatives and installed dozens or hundreds of these boxes to secure
remote telco switching stations, for remote management and maintenance.  I
think SDTI's ACMs are a mainstay of the teleco infrastructure throughout
North America, maybe in other countries too.)
  
        The finite  lifespan of SecurIDs, btw,  is not based on battery
life-- although the SecurID is "sealed" and the battery is not accessible or
replacable by the token-holder.  SDTI, as  I recall,  found that the failure
rate among five year-old SecurID cards was markedly worse than among those
with the same tokens which were only four years old.   There seemed to be a
rapid drop in dependability after a relatively constant level of
dependability up until then.

        Nothing particularly surprising, just wear and tear on a given token
design.   I expect that SDTI will offer longer-lifed key-fobs when they get
real-world stats from their installed base,  but I'd be surprised if the
SecurID cards are ever sold for longer than 5 years without some (heavily
studied)  tweak in the design for the token casing.

        I always wondered if C/R tokens -- which, after all,  have to have
mechanical  keypads, which most SecurIDs do not need -- are  _really_ immune
to such predictable changes in dependability when a token is carried around
by an user, and is  in heavy daily use over several years.   

>Does anyone know of a device that will do this?

        Toronto-based Cryptocard  <http://www.cryptocard.com>  has, among
other products, a Win95/NT-based RADIUS authentication manager that might
fit your needs.  DES-based C/R tokens.  Good little company.

        Suerte,
                        _Vin
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