For me that's the problem with this endless discussion about "Why not NT?":
- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gives an correctly true answer and
- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gives a honestly true answer.
But "Let's be fair, and move on please" is a good subject, as sometimes the
mails with subject "Why not NT?" reach more than 50% of this list by now. And
in addition we all should remember, that from a lawyer's position you only have
to be correct not honest. Or am I wrong?
B.T.W. I tend towards those who are honest not to those behaving correctly.
HvS
:-)
>
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:29:24 -0700
> From: "Tim Doscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Let's be fair, and move on please
>
> To this point I strongly disagree. I feel that Microsoft has made
> tremendous strides in taking security seriously and meeting customers
> legitimate needs. People quite often think that because there is a GUI
> invloved that there is no need to understand the product. This is far from
> the case, sometimes it can seem deceptively simple. In this day and age it
> seems that large vendor support for security related incidents is higher
> than ever before. To sit and bash software manufacturers on a single case
> basis is not fair to those manufacturers or to people that entrust you for
> your comments. Microsoft has a lot of good products, and good support if
> you know where to go, Novell and Sun are the same way. BSD and Linux have
> good support available, but it is available through different routes. How
> many people actually find "unique" problems with software. I believe that
> most people would agree that a high percentage of software problems are
> caused by lack of definitive knowledge of the product.
> Which leads to my final request, if you prefer another product, then use it,
> if you don't like it, don't use it. Let's try not to make this a
> pro-"anything" or a "lets bash so and so" forum. There is plenty of
> constructive topics that we can focus on.
> Thank You
>
> Tim Doscher
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MCSE+I, MCT, CCNA, CNA
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Bruderer
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 1:21 PM
> To: Brian Steele
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Why not NT?
>
>
>
> Brian, you are not getting the point. Just because there are more
> Volkswagen than Rolls Royce, a Volkswagen is not better.
>
> If you install your system, and it runs, everything is perfect. If you
> have a strange problem (with Microsoft) you are alone.
>
> If you have a real problem (no matter if HP, SUN or IBM), specially a
> security related one, you get quite quickly a contact to the lab and can
> argue directly with the person who wrote that piece of code, or at least
> has access to the source code.
>
> With Microsoft you get nothing.
>
> Look for millions of people McDonalds is good enough. But there are some
> they like Chateau Briand and a bottle of Chateau Margaux, 1er Grand Cru.
>
> have fun ...
>
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