1) the web site was security related
2) how do you know the same thing won't happen to you?
3) ~"All that is necessary for evil to win, is for the good guys to stand by
and do nothing."
4) The only response that Harvard will understand is for a wide variety of
unaffiliated (sp?) people to email / write / call them and ask what happened
and why.
5) I find it interesting that the antionline web site quotes ken williams as
saying "have now lost it all because some as***le named John Vranesevich is
able to make a quick phone call" (The asterisks are my own replacement, the
vaunted antionline site with all the discussion about family and decency
included the original letters.), but the attrition.org site just says
"have now lost it all because John Vranesevich and a few of his IRC friends
are able to make quick phone calls". I am forced to wonder which one is
accurate???
6) I also find it interesting that a search at http://www.harvard.edu:8765/
(search link from http://www.harvard.edu) on "Ken Williams" and on
packetstorm both show no hits. It's not much of a press release if it can't
be found.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lamb Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 9:49 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Reply from Ken Williams RE: Harvard Reply Re:...
I must be confused here. Isn't this supposed to be a technical
forum?
It should not be a forum to air personal grievances. The IETF mail list
just went through something similar, resulting in several subscribers
dropping themselves from the address list and the creation of a
technically focused mail group.
spiff wrote:
>
> NOTE: Quoted from HNN: ( http://www.hackernews.com/ )
>
> ---- Begin quoted excerpt from HNN ----
>
> "Ken Williams initial responce to the Harvard University statement which
> denies all allegations of hosting sexually oriented material:
>
> Date: 7/1/99 17:58
> Received: 7/1/99 18:01
> From: Ken Williams, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi,
>
> [The Harvard] statement is incorrect, and even libelous
> itself by implying that I had "sexually related materal" on
> the server. I NEVER did!
>
> NOW, I will retain legal counsel. This is outrageous!
>
> I wouldn't have been surprised to find myself slandered by
> John Vranesevich and AntiOnline, but to have Harvard
> implicitly state that I was serving up "sexually related
> material" to the Internet is absurd, libelous, and legally
> reprehensible.
>
> Are you, Harvard, trying to ruin my reputation and career
> now too?
>
> It sounds to me like you are fabricating this "sexually
> related material and personal attacks" statement to appease
> your critics, and, as I (now ominously) mentioned in my first
> open letter, trying to use me as the fall guy.
>
> Regretfully,
>
> Ken Williams"
>
> ---- End quoted excerpt from HNN ----
>
> On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Spikeman wrote:
>
> > Got a reply about packetstorm from harvard so who knows what will happen
> > now if it goes back up somewhere else or whatever..
> >
> >
> > Spikeman,
> >
> > The packetstorm.harvard.edu site data has not been destroyed and is
> > being returned, in it's entirety, to the site's owner.
> >
> > Please see the attached official press release below.
> >
> > ========================
> >
> >
> > * S T A T E M E N T *
> >
> >
> > As a service to the Internet community, Harvard agreed to host a
> > Packet Storm Security Website for security-related materials only.
> > Without
> > Harvard's knowledge, unrelated content was put on the Harvard server,
> > including sexually-related material and personal attacks on an
> > individual
> > not affiliated with the University. A Harvard administrative site
> > focused
> > on security issues is not the forum for this type of material. We are
> > returning the content on the site and hope that Packet Storm will make
> > its
> > security tools available through its own Website.
> >
> >
> > Joe Wrinn
> > Director
> > Office of News and Public Affairs
> >
> > ==========================
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jay Tumas
> >
> >
> >
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