Joel Gridley wrote:
>
> My two bits
> -Employers who base hiring solely on certs are risking hiring junior level
> people who barely got the paper.
> -Employers who do not use certs at all in hiring must commit the IS/IT/MIS
> manager to doing a lot of the initial 'weeding out' processes, which is
> not at all cost effective.
> -Applicants who disregard certification limit themselves to those job
> openings where the employer is not asking for one, or where the employer
> has is techno-savvy enough to understand the applicant's abilities.
> -Certification is not something that should be "all or nothing". They
> weren't meant to replace established hiring and job-seeking practices,
> they were designed to standardize things a bit.
>
> Joel Gridley
> Site Patrol/Firewall Specialist "Be the packet"
> GTE Internetworking
> Burlington, MA
Of course, but I'm not sure I'd want to work in a company with:
A) Non-Techno-Savvy management
B) Hires or even Interviews based on certs... think of it as my weeding
out process ;-)
D Clyde
> On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Todd Bordeaux wrote:
>
> > I usually just watch (I get _a lot_ of good info), but I thought I would
> > throw my comment in. I have been looking for a sys admin position
> > (Unix) in the Phoenix metro area. My credentials are 22+ years
> > (starting with IBM mainframes) in both hardware and software. I have
> > 10+ years in Unix systems administration (no certificates, my last job
> > before obtaining a govt contract rather _generously_ accepted 14 years
> > of working with them as proof of experience and reason for
> > advancement). When I see a company, looking for Unix S/A's, asking for
> > MCSE's, it seems suprising (except when you accept that HR is doing the
> > initial screening). What is really galling is that each company expects
> > resumes to be submitted in Microsoft Word format.
> > Certification (IMHO) demonstrates that you are able to "talk the talk".
> > Proven experience demonstrates that you are able to "walk the walk".
> > Which is better? Better yet, how do you get that point across to the
> > gatekeeper of the "first door" (initial candidate selection)?
> >
> > Todd Bordeaux
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