I too have experience with both.  I tend to avoid them when possible.
Neither company is  network security company.  Leave firewalls to the
firewall folks.  I have not worked directly with BM 3.0, but 2.0 is a
screening router with 1 application proxy.  I was amazed at how many
patches would break things fixed in previous patches (or things there
never were broken).  It's cacheing speed is nice, but again, I would not
consider it a real firewall.  We had stability problems as well.

MS Proxy is even less appealing to me.  I don't like the idea of having to
install a client on all machines on my network just so they can do more
than http.  I also don't care for the way Proxy sits on IIS, sits on NT.
ONe component breaks and you get a house of cards effect.  Even when
running this at small sites it requires too much damned baby sitting.

Go with FireWall-1 on a Nokia box.  You won't regret it.  =)

Carric Dooley
COM2:Interactive Media
http://www.com2usa.com

On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Roberto Sixtos Auces wrote:

> Michael, I have been some experience with both products, in my particular
> opinion Novell border manager is better than Microsoft proxy.
> 
> Border Manager offers , NAT,block sites with Cyber Patrol, cache, and filter
> ports, and is a firewall certified.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Reviews of Proxy 2 and Bordermanager
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> 
> Does anyone know of some reviews for either Microsoft Proxy 2.0 and/or
> Novell Border Manager acting as a firewall to the Internet?
> 
>  The reviews I have seen tend to focus on your more traditional products
> such as Firewall-1, Raptor, etc.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Michael
> 
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