hey, hey, hey! my finger is getting sick and tired of pointing and clicking 
the delete key. few more weeks like that and i'll have to go on 
compensation. please show some mercy to the suffering ones and cut that 
nonsense about policies.

i guess i can sign this as a "jackass".


>From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Bayard G. Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Time to break up: call for a plebiscite
>Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:30:27 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>Bad idea. I counter-propose we all just continue to hit our "delete" key
>when we find an asinine post (such as the one below?), thereby making it
>functionally irrelevant. Who would be the "cop" to try to enforce the
>separation of UNMODERATED lists--that's the kind of tasks moderation is
>designed to handle. Since no one is willing to volunteer to be the list
>moderator--Mr. Bell has certainly not volunteered to do so--his separation
>would be both irrelevant and unenforceable. That so being, there is no
>justification for going through the exercise.
>
>Regards.
>Bill
>
>
>On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Bayard G. Bell wrote:
>
> > IF YOU AGREE WITH WHAT I SAY BELOW, DO NOT RESPOND TO THE LIST.  I
> > propose several remedies below, and if you would like to see these acted
> > on, please send e-mail to:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Because I feel that large volumes of asinine posts are detracting from
> > this list and because a few members of this list seem to have persistent
> > problems with immoderate posting (or immoderate posting in response to
> > immoderate posting), I would like to suggest splitting this list in two:
> > the existing list should retain its name and restrict itself to
> > discussion of firewall technology, while another list called
> > firewall-policy should be created for all of the jackasses who wish to
> > make specious arguments and start lengthy digressive exchanges in
> > response to everything on this list that isn't their style.  I should
> > hope that out of the frustration of having a list subscription turned
> > into a quasi-spam subscription such "contributors" will mend their ways
> > and make more earnest contributions.
> >
> > I don't mean to dismiss the topic of firewall policy, but I don't
> > believe the list as a whole has demonstrated itself capable of
> > sustaining productive conversation on this topic.  My hope is that a
> > list on this subject will gain some greater coherence and be able to
> > consider this issue more cogently than this list has.  If expertise in
> > many areas is required of firewall administrators, let it be expertise
> > and not amateurism (and certainly not dilettantism) in these areas that
> > all lists for the community of administrators encourages.
> >
> > And let us not forget to encourage a degree of professional courtesy...
> >
> > -Bayard Bell
><< bbell01.vcf >>


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