Didn't Rodney King once say "Can't we all get along?"
Personally I enjoy reading, and have gain a great deal from, the emails
regardless of subject when I have time.  When I don't, the delete key is a
useful "filter."

It ain't broke.  Don't fix it.


Wayne E. Seth
Site Coordinator
FCBS/Fort Huachuca
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> From:         Randall, Mark[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:         Wednesday, August 04, 1999 4:36 PM
> To:   'Bill Casti (System Admin)'
> Cc:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      RE: Time to break up: call for a plebiscite
> 
> I agree.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Casti (System Admin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 8:30 PM
> To: Bayard G. Bell
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Time to break up: call for a plebiscite
> 
> 
> 
> Bad idea. I counter-propose we all just continue to hit our "delete" key
> when we find an asinine post (such as the one below?), thereby making it
> functionally irrelevant. Who would be the "cop" to try to enforce the
> separation of UNMODERATED lists--that's the kind of tasks moderation is
> designed to handle. Since no one is willing to volunteer to be the list
> moderator--Mr. Bell has certainly not volunteered to do so--his separation
> would be both irrelevant and unenforceable. That so being, there is no
> justification for going through the exercise.
> 
> Regards.
> Bill
> 
> 
> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Bayard G. Bell wrote:
> 
> > IF YOU AGREE WITH WHAT I SAY BELOW, DO NOT RESPOND TO THE LIST.  I
> > propose several remedies below, and if you would like to see these acted
> > on, please send e-mail to:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Because I feel that large volumes of asinine posts are detracting from
> > this list and because a few members of this list seem to have persistent
> > problems with immoderate posting (or immoderate posting in response to
> > immoderate posting), I would like to suggest splitting this list in two:
> > the existing list should retain its name and restrict itself to
> > discussion of firewall technology, while another list called
> > firewall-policy should be created for all of the jackasses who wish to
> > make specious arguments and start lengthy digressive exchanges in
> > response to everything on this list that isn't their style.  I should
> > hope that out of the frustration of having a list subscription turned
> > into a quasi-spam subscription such "contributors" will mend their ways
> > and make more earnest contributions.
> > 
> > I don't mean to dismiss the topic of firewall policy, but I don't
> > believe the list as a whole has demonstrated itself capable of
> > sustaining productive conversation on this topic.  My hope is that a
> > list on this subject will gain some greater coherence and be able to
> > consider this issue more cogently than this list has.  If expertise in
> > many areas is required of firewall administrators, let it be expertise
> > and not amateurism (and certainly not dilettantism) in these areas that
> > all lists for the community of administrators encourages.
> > 
> > And let us not forget to encourage a degree of professional courtesy...
> > 
> > -Bayard Bell
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