Bill,
You seem to be falling behind in current events. The writers of bok2 are
considering a legal ove to sue the various antii-virus vendors for
including hooks to catch and eliminate bok2 as they are touting it as an
"administration" tool. Go back over yer sans updates of web clippings,
about a month or two back, you'll find the info related to this there.
Thanks,
Ron DuFresne
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Bill Lavalette -=- Operations NdrsNet NOC/CERT wrote:
> Nice Slam -
>
> One should note that this type of response obviously comes from a person that
> needs to research Trojan horses himself....
> one should know the facts before he attempts to use sarcasm towards anyone that
> is just asking for help.
> funny you should say that b02k is not a Trojan..... as it may have some similar
> features that can be related to PC anywhere
> I don't see how you can make claims to the fact that it is legitimate? I find
> any program that can covertly be placed on my systems to allow a unauthorized
> user access to be a Trojan..... hence the word Trojan derived from the war tool
> used to fool the enemy or in this case the "mark" into believing it is
> something that it is not.
> I guess that's why every antivirus vender helps protect against generation 1
> and 2 back orifice... if you think for one minute that this is a legitimate
> tool that has its place in network management then you truly are a fool and
> anyone that employs you as a systems administrator should have there head
> examined.. back orifice is nothing more then a hacker tool anyone that has
> studied this software will tell you the same... as for credibility I have
> personally face to face spoken with some of the members of cdc and they will be
> the first ones to tell you that this tool is to prove the Major security flaws
> in the MS operating systems if it was legit you would be paying for it....
> Bill Lavalette
> Systems Administrator
> Network Security Coordinator
> Network Disaster Recovery Systems
> CSERT/NOC 206.932.5704
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Axley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 8:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: BO2k source code
>
> Ironically, your email account seems to be at AltaVista--a search engine.
> These are very handy at locating what you are looking for.
>
> At any rate, http://www.bo2k.org is the home of bo2k. Oh, but before
> you write your paper, note that bo2k....
>
> ** IS _NOT_ A TROJAN!!!!!!!! **
>
> It is not a trojan horse any more than PC Anywhere is. See
> http://www.hackernews.com/orig/bo2k-1.html for more info on this subject.
>
> If you want to write about _real_ trojan horses, you'll have to look
> elsewhere. Here's one definition of 'Trojan Horse', which bo2k does not
> meet: http://www.whatis.com/trojanho.htm
>
> For future reference, you should try searching for what you're looking for
> first:
> http://www.google.com
> http://altavista.digital.com
> http://www.lycos.com
> http://www.yahoo.com
> http://www.savvysearch.com
> http://www.hotbot.com
>
> -Jason
>
> On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:43:40 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: BO2k source code
> >
> > I'm writing a paper about trojans and would like to view the source code for
> BO2k. Does anyone know where it is located on the web?
> >
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