Ask him how long he can afford to have his servers down (money talks).
Also, ask him if he is prepared to answer to the CIO/CEO of the company when
he's questioned on why his network segment was shut down because he's an
incompentent bonehead.

Cheers,
Dennis Keller
Network Security Administrator
DDSP-Z
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Savadkohi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 1:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Hey, I DON'T WANT a firewall in front of my network!
> 
> 
> Forgive me for the blunt subject heading, but unfortunately 
> this is a reality I'm facing in my organization.
> 
> I'm a network administrator new to firewalls and the list.  
> Like so many other organizations, we have a router linking us 
> to the Internet which until recently went unfiltered.  I've 
> successfully deployed a couple firewall devices to change 
> this, but my advances in securing our private network haven't 
> been met with cheers ("Hey, why can't I get my RealAudio 
> streams anymore!").  In particular, there is one department 
> head who holds the sentiment I shared in the SUBJECT line.  
> This person insists on keeping their segment firewall-free, 
> with public IP addresses on workstations and servers alike.
> 
> Having been unsuccessful on my own, I'm seeking advice on how 
> I can persuade this dept head their machines are at risk.  
> Remember I'm dealing with a non-technical member of 
> management who would gloss over at responses describing DoS, 
> Land attacks, SYN flooding, Bonk/Boink, port scans, etc. 
> Real-life episodes of successful hacking I imagine will work 
> well.  And accept my "Thanks, but no thanks" in advance if 
> you'd like to offer a demonstration!
> 
> At the risk of exposing too much, let me briefly describe 
> what services are unprotected: two (2) HTTP servers, one (1) 
> SQL database server, and an NT box that's the PDC for that segment.
> 
> Thanks for your responses.
> 
> -Shawn
> 
> 
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