Shawn, let me put it this way:  Shawn how do I hack thee let me count the
ways!  I will bet all these machines are NT boxes.

Renee Lee

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Shawn Savadkohi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 27, 2000 12:17 PM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Hey, I DON'T WANT a firewall in front of my network!

Forgive me for the blunt subject heading, but unfortunately this is a
reality I'm facing in my organization.

I'm a network administrator new to firewalls and the list.  Like so many
other organizations, we have a router linking us to the Internet which until
recently went unfiltered.  I've successfully deployed a couple firewall
devices to change this, but my advances in securing our private network
haven't been met with cheers ("Hey, why can't I get my RealAudio streams
anymore!").  In particular, there is one department head who holds the
sentiment I shared in the SUBJECT line.  This person insists on keeping
their segment firewall-free, with public IP addresses on workstations and
servers alike.

Having been unsuccessful on my own, I'm seeking advice on how I can persuade
this dept head their machines are at risk.  Remember I'm dealing with a
non-technical member of management who would gloss over at responses
describing DoS, Land attacks, SYN flooding, Bonk/Boink, port scans, etc. 
Real-life episodes of successful hacking I imagine will work well.  And
accept my "Thanks, but no thanks" in advance if you'd like to offer a
demonstration!

At the risk of exposing too much, let me briefly describe what services are
unprotected: two (2) HTTP servers, one (1) SQL database server, and an NT
box that's the PDC for that segment.

Thanks for your responses.

-Shawn



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