Applause!

I think the whole discussion of black, gray and white is useless. 

Either you work as a security consultant or you are a cracker. There is 
nothing in between. If you are serious you do not recommend solutions 
during the day and break in a little bit in the night.

"Meritt, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  writes:
> And just because someone is well known in one area does not mean that he, or
> she, "has a clue" in any other arena.  A "computer hacker" may know the ins
> and outs of a particular program or information system and its
> vulnerabilities but have no idea that there vital continuity of operations
> considerations associated with business operations and they have usually
> demonstrated an abysmal ignorance and/or disregard of any legal and ethical
> implications.  Would YOU want someone who has demonstrated a lack of
> comprehension of the implications of what they are doing to have full access
> to YOUR vital systems?
> 
> The REALLY good "hackers" will not be found out, will not be caught and
> quite possibly will never be detected.  These so-called experts bragging on
> their past "accomplishments" are simply demonstrating their ineptitude by
> their inability to avoid detection.  Would YOU want someone who has
> demonstrated incompetence to have full access to YOUR vital systems?

have fun ...

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