There are 6 or 8 top-level peering points around the country; two 
of them are within 10 miles or so of me -- Nasa Ames and MAE West.

David Gillett


On 9 Jun 2001, at 22:09, Carl E. Mankinen wrote:

> Goto 55 marietta in Atlanta and you will see a large peering
> arrangement. Lot's of fiber terminating there and it's pretty
> interesting all the politics behind peering agreements.
> 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zachary Uram
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: How to protect natl. critical infrastructure? (was Re:
> analyzing traceroute ouput)
> 
> 
> On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > If A and B are on two different ISPs that don't currently have a 
> > common peering point, they must traverse some other backbone ISP, and 
> > this choice may be made differently depending on the origin ISP of 
> > the packet....
> 
> Thanks for info David. Fascinating, I didn't realize that. How do
> 2 ISPs become "peers"? They are on same backbone?
> I heard on CNN this morning that during height of CA power crisis
> a group of anti-US Chinese hackers broke into components of the
> CA state power grid control network and although they didn't
> reach critical systems an audit showed that with more persistence
> they could have exploited vulnerabilities and gained access to
> critical areas of the system. This is disturbing. I was more
> disturbed by the reported saying somethinb to the effect "The
> security issues have been resolved and the system is now totally
> secure." Why is such a critical system as power grid even
> PUBLICLY accessible. Shouldn't they be on their own closed
> network? I hope the nuclear power plants and ballistic missile
> control networks are more secure. Yikes!
> 
> SDG,
> Zach
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