We are going to put in a linux box with IPChains.  Also, we are going to put
in a hardware firewall in relay with the linux box.  I know this sounds
paranoid, but we (meaning my company) are in a industry that is targeted by
certain orginizations who have been known to send mail bombs (via snail
mail), so hacking is not something we intend to ignore.

Seriously, I know the dangers involved, and may get an outside consultant to
help out.

Anyone know of a good tutorial for ipchains?

In terms of the hardware firewall, can someone make any recommendations?
This is for about 15 computers, which will eventually have a dsl connection,
but right now we have a dial-up.  We can't afford a $10,000 solution, but we
need something reasonably secure and reliable.

Marc DVer
White Eagle Laboratories, Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paula Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steven Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Marc DVer"
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Subject: RE: Do we require a Firewall?


> Personally I work with SonicWALL, Raptor (now Symantec's product), and
> Cisco.  I also know quite a bit about personal firewalls as well so if
> anyone needs some information - let me know. Not just on a sales level
which
> I have just moved into but truley on an information based level.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Paula Evans
> Interspace Computers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:59 PM
> To: Marc DVer; Clark, Steve; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Do we require a Firewall?
>
>
>
>
> Marc,
>
> I have ZA Pro.  I purchased it after I had been using the free version for
> about 6 months.  Well did I make
> a mistake.  I will not do so again, I am going to set up a firewall either
> hardware or Linux.  You are correct
> they do not block specific ports.  A good friend of mine and I have beat
our
> heads against the wall trying
> to get it to do speicific things.  He did figure it out.
>
> It has the WORSE upgrades of any software that I know of.  Make a mistake
on
> the install and TRY to do
> so again.  FORGET IT.  You need to wipe the box clean...
>
> Steve: run away from ZA.  Get a linux ipchains (old Name) and use it.  It
> can be installed on an
> old 486 without to many problems.  Or go buy a firewall like sonicwall or
> the like.
> Again do not use ZA to protect your network.  It is not going to help.
>
>
> Steven
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 1/15/2002 at 1:27 PM Marc DVer wrote:
>
> >I would beg to differ.  Though I am by no means an expert on firewalls, I
> >have some experience wiht ZA Pro.  We are currently replacing ZA Pro
> >because
> >one, it refuses to block specified ports (yes, we are on medium security,
> >yes, I blocked the ports under the customize button under the security
> >tab),
> >and two, their support stinks.  I have an support request in to them for
> >over a month and have not heard from them besides receiving an automated
> >reply.
> >
> >Has anyone else seen this with ZA Pro?
> >
> >Marc Dver
> >Head of MIS
> >White Eagle Laboratories, Inc.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:15 AM
> >Subject: RE: Do we require a Firewall?
> >
> >
> >> 602 is not all that secure - what you do is to put ZA Pro on the PC
along
> >> with 602 so it reduces the chances of someone getting in. keep in mind,
> >> since 602 dials up periodically based on use, the IP changes each time
> >you
> >> dial.
> >>
> >> Steve Clark
> >> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> >> AVIEN Charter Member
> >> "Who's watching your network?"
> >> www.clarksupport.com
> >> 301-610-9584 voice
> >> 240-465-0323 Efax
> >>
> >> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
> >> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
information
> >and
> >> shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
> >prior
> >> written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vishal Mukherjee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 3:14 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: Do we require a Firewall?
> >> Importance: High
> >>
> >> Thanks to all those how contributed
> >>
> >> to urs queries I would say its a windows NT machine with 602 Lanpro
Proxy
> >> further any site which can test the firewalls working I mean to check
how
> >> powerful is our protection.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Vishal Mukherjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:09 AM
> >> Subject: Do we require a Firewall?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > I am a newbie and want a few suggestions and help?
> >> > we are a small organization with around 15 terminals. we are
connected
> >to
> >> > the internet through a dialup connection to the internet.
> >> > One server serves us as a proxy server and all the other computers on
> >the
> >> > network browse using a proxy server. My questions are:-
> >> >
> >> > 1.    Do we need a firewall?
> >> > 2.    which firewall will u gurus suggested?
> >> >
> >> > I would prefer a software firewall if suggested by you all..
> >> >
> >> > Please suggest me?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks & Regards
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> >> > Vishal Mukherjee
> >> > IRSSL  Vashi
> >> > 91.022.7896004.155 (voice)  022.7896020(fax)
> >> > ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
> >> >
> >> >
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