Marc,

Well there is very good Howto on IPChains on the net.  From what I can see
that is the best place to start.  Or you can get one of the Oreilly books.
They have ones on firewalls http://security.oreilly.com/ is the site they
have on security.  It is a good place to start.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=linux+security

Is from a search I did on Google about security wiht Linux.  There is a lot of 
information
from that search.  You can do similar searches like this also.  Or the other site
you can do is linux-firewallools.com

S

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On 1/15/2002 at 2:39 PM Marc DVer wrote:

>We are going to put in a linux box with IPChains.  Also, we are going to
>put
>in a hardware firewall in relay with the linux box.  I know this sounds
>paranoid, but we (meaning my company) are in a industry that is targeted by
>certain orginizations who have been known to send mail bombs (via snail
>mail), so hacking is not something we intend to ignore.
>
>Seriously, I know the dangers involved, and may get an outside consultant
>to
>help out.
>
>Anyone know of a good tutorial for ipchains?
>
>In terms of the hardware firewall, can someone make any recommendations?
>This is for about 15 computers, which will eventually have a dsl
>connection,
>but right now we have a dial-up.  We can't afford a $10,000 solution, but
>we
>need something reasonably secure and reliable.
>
>Marc DVer
>White Eagle Laboratories, Inc.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paula Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Steven Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Marc DVer"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:21 PM
>Subject: RE: Do we require a Firewall?
>
>
>> Personally I work with SonicWALL, Raptor (now Symantec's product), and
>> Cisco.  I also know quite a bit about personal firewalls as well so if
>> anyone needs some information - let me know. Not just on a sales level
>which
>> I have just moved into but truley on an information based level.
>>
>> Thanks -
>>
>> Paula Evans
>> Interspace Computers
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven Pierce
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:59 PM
>> To: Marc DVer; Clark, Steve; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Do we require a Firewall?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Marc,
>>
>> I have ZA Pro.  I purchased it after I had been using the free version
>for
>> about 6 months.  Well did I make
>> a mistake.  I will not do so again, I am going to set up a firewall
>either
>> hardware or Linux.  You are correct
>> they do not block specific ports.  A good friend of mine and I have beat
>our
>> heads against the wall trying
>> to get it to do speicific things.  He did figure it out.
>>
>> It has the WORSE upgrades of any software that I know of.  Make a mistake
>on
>> the install and TRY to do
>> so again.  FORGET IT.  You need to wipe the box clean...
>>
>> Steve: run away from ZA.  Get a linux ipchains (old Name) and use it.  It
>> can be installed on an
>> old 486 without to many problems.  Or go buy a firewall like sonicwall or
>> the like.
>> Again do not use ZA to protect your network.  It is not going to help.
>>
>>
>> Steven
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>>
>> On 1/15/2002 at 1:27 PM Marc DVer wrote:
>>
>> >I would beg to differ.  Though I am by no means an expert on firewalls,
>I
>> >have some experience wiht ZA Pro.  We are currently replacing ZA Pro
>> >because
>> >one, it refuses to block specified ports (yes, we are on medium
>security,
>> >yes, I blocked the ports under the customize button under the security
>> >tab),
>> >and two, their support stinks.  I have an support request in to them for
>> >over a month and have not heard from them besides receiving an automated
>> >reply.
>> >
>> >Has anyone else seen this with ZA Pro?
>> >
>> >Marc Dver
>> >Head of MIS
>> >White Eagle Laboratories, Inc.
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:15 AM
>> >Subject: RE: Do we require a Firewall?
>> >
>> >
>> >> 602 is not all that secure - what you do is to put ZA Pro on the PC
>along
>> >> with 602 so it reduces the chances of someone getting in. keep in
>mind,
>> >> since 602 dials up periodically based on use, the IP changes each time
>> >you
>> >> dial.
>> >>
>> >> Steve Clark
>> >> Clark Systems Support, LLC
>> >> AVIEN Charter Member
>> >> "Who's watching your network?"
>> >> www.clarksupport.com
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>> >> 240-465-0323 Efax
>> >>
>> >> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
>> >> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
>information
>> >and
>> >> shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
>> >prior
>> >> written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Vishal Mukherjee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 3:14 AM
>> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Subject: Re: Do we require a Firewall?
>> >> Importance: High
>> >>
>> >> Thanks to all those how contributed
>> >>
>> >> to urs queries I would say its a windows NT machine with 602 Lanpro
>Proxy
>> >> further any site which can test the firewalls working I mean to check
>how
>> >> powerful is our protection.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Vishal Mukherjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:09 AM
>> >> Subject: Do we require a Firewall?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> > I am a newbie and want a few suggestions and help?
>> >> > we are a small organization with around 15 terminals. we are
>connected
>> >to
>> >> > the internet through a dialup connection to the internet.
>> >> > One server serves us as a proxy server and all the other computers
>on
>> >the
>> >> > network browse using a proxy server. My questions are:-
>> >> >
>> >> > 1.    Do we need a firewall?
>> >> > 2.    which firewall will u gurus suggested?
>> >> >
>> >> > I would prefer a software firewall if suggested by you all..
>> >> >
>> >> > Please suggest me?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks & Regards
>> >> > ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
>> >> > Vishal Mukherjee
>> >> > IRSSL  Vashi
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>> >> > ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
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>> >> >
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