On 27 Feb 2002, at 3:42, Alvin Oga wrote:

> pptp is not secure enough....
> 
> i tend NOT to allow vpn internally or from outside....
>       ( guess just me being nuts-o )
>       ( ssh-only... from inside or outside...

  Guess what:  Any user who runs PPP over their SSH session has got a 
VPN going, one that you don't know about and can't police.
 
DG


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