ALL,

        AGAIN I SAY BLOCK THE INBOUND TRACE AT THE EDGE.
        WHY ALL THE DORKING AROUND ABOUT TRACEROUTE???
        ALLOW IT OUTBOUND BUT NOT INBOUND SO YOU DONT HAVE TO 
        WORRY ABOUT IT.

PIRANHA....

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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:22 PM
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Subject: Re: How to hide IP's in Trace


On 7 Mar 2002, at 0:25, Amarnath Gutta wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I have Private IP's address in my network which I want to conceal
> in traceroutes. Say a customer traces to any IP on internet he is
> able to map my private network also which I want to prevent. So how
> can I hide the private ip's in the traceroutes. I use cisco
> routers. 
> 
> Any suggestions are welcome.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Amar

  It sounds like you don't want your firewall to allow ICMP replies. 

  But even if your firewall allows ICMP replies from internal 
machines, then any servers for which you have static NAT mappings 
will respond -- and the responses, being NATted, will show the IPs 
that the servers map to and not the internal IP addresses of the 
actual machines.
  Any internal clients relying on PAT will never see the ICMP 
requests, which will be addressed to the firewall.
  If you have a NAT pool, then machines currently mapped into the 
pool may respond on their current mapped addresses -- but since those 
addresses are subject to change, this mapping is of limited use to an 
attacker.

  So although you may be happier blocking ICMP replies -- if your 
firewall lets you choose that option -- I don't think the risk is as 
bad as you fear.  If you have a firewall that doesn't let you block 
ICMP replies, I would not lose sleep over it.

David Gillett


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