On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Schouten, Diederik (Diederik) wrote:

> Ouch...
>
> > The difference is that you said bridged mode firewalls were not
> > detectable, nobody's claimed that of the other types.
>
> True... I should have phrased that differently.
>
> No device is undetectable.
>

Which of course was the major crux of the present discussion.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
        ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***

OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.

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