This (b) model can be used to describe a range of activity from Shannon type communication to biological (DNA) activity,
DNA and information have nothing to do with each other. but I am not sure it can be applied to chemical activity. That's what DNA is a molecule. To my "un-informed" way of thinking chemical interaction is more like (a) - a passive response - rather than a selective active response as in (b). Dick Stoute On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Gyorgy Darvas <darv...@iif.hu> wrote: The question can be put even so: Is there information only when the recipient is (or it is perceived) by a conscious human being? (in a weaker form: by a sensitive, brain-equipped animal?) or Neither there is no such thing as information use by biological organisms. It's a daft idea. Replying to the following two questions may help: (1) Is there information in the situation there is no data ? (2) If yes, an example would be great; If no, is there information if no data is conveyed ? Best, Michel. 2011/10/4 Dick Stoute <dick.sto...@gmail.com>: > This is my first post to this list - so my apologies if I get it wrong. > > I am looking for arguments for/against the concept of information as "form > conveyed by data". Any references/ideas would be appreciated. > > Dick > _______________________________________________ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis Recent publications online: - Mathematical description of a so far undisclosed symmetry of nature: http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.3189v1 - Physical consequences of a new gauge-symmetry and the concluded conservation law: http://www.springer.com/home?SGWID=0-0-1003-0-0 <http://www.springer.com/alert/urltracking.do?id=L1cdef9M852da2Saaa5614> &aqId=1788954&download=1&checkval=489b8c72cdf8948cf719b8838b49e656 - Spontaneous symmetry breaking in non-Euclidean systems: http://www.springerlink.com/content/k272555u06q2074w/?p=14dd4c9c5b5e4c1396b3 e4855a87e9e2 <http://www.springerlink.com/content/k272555u06q2074w/?p=14dd4c9c5b5e4c1396b 3e4855a87e9e2&pi=1> &pi=1 Symmetry Festival 2009 <http://videotorium.hu/hu/events/details/87,The_Symmetry_Festival_2009> , Keynote and Plenary lectures ______________________________________________________ Gyorgy Darvas <http://members.iif.hu/darvasg/> E-mail / Skype <mailto:%20darv...@iif.hu> ; S Y M M E T R I O N <http://symmetry.hu/> Address: c/o MTA KSZI; 18 Nador St., Budapest, H-1051 Hungary Fax: 36 (1) <tel:36%20%281%29%20331-3161> 331-3161; Phone: 36 (1) 312-3022; 36 (1) <tel:36%20%281%29%20331-3975> 331-3975 Monograph: Symmetry <http://books.google.hu/books?id=UYdsSrZF0mgC&dq=darvas+symmetry&printsec=fr ontcover&source=bn&hl=hu&ei=UKx7TP3XEpDIswaMmOSxDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=re sult&resnum=5&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false> ; Course of <http://hps.elte.hu/courses/darvas.htm#English> lectures _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
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