Dear Gyorgy - well said - I agree with you and thank you for your excellent comments - Bob Logan
On 2012-01-10, at 11:23 AM, Gyorgy Darvas wrote: > I disagree! > Theory is a part, an important element of science. > Practice should check, can confirm or falsify a theory, but cannot replace or > discredit its mission. > > As regards journals, my position is that they must give place to > controversial ideas. The task of a journal is to give forum for discussion. A > journal (i.e., its editors) and the reviewers do not need to share the > opinions put forward in the submitted papers. Scientific truth can be met > only if controversial ideas are discussed. That means, scientific truth is > shaped as a result of discussion. The task of the reviewers is not to take > over the responsibility from the scientific community, to decide on the > correctness of ideas, incl. theories, expressed in the papers. (They can > check whether the mathematical derivations are not mistaken, experiments are > documented and reproducible, etc.) Ideas can be discussed if they are > published for a wide circle of scientists, so that anyone who wants could > express her/his supporting or controversial ideas and arguments. This is a > key to the development of science. > > Regards, > Gyuri > > > > At 16:48 2012.01.10.ÿ, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote: > > >> -------- Mensaje original -------- >> Asunto: THEORY AND SCIENCE >> Fecha: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:49:58 +0800 >> De: whhbs...@sina.com >> Responder a: whhbs...@sina.com >> Para: Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>, mjs <m...@aiu.ac.jp>, >> Joseph Brenner <joe.bren...@bluewin.ch> , fislist <fis@listas.unizar.es> >> >> >> Dear Pedro, Dear Marcin, Dear Joseph, Dear FIS Colleagues, >> >> Theory is important and necessary, but theory is different from science, >> theory is a growing view or hypothesis. We should remember Russell's paradox >> and the third number of Math Crisis, we should remember Aristotle and >> Galileo, and we shouldn't forget the article about MDMA by Jan Hendrik >> Schön in 2002. Let us remember history that go on record according to >> gubernatorial volition usually. Furthermore, lie is not science, for example >> Hwang's cloning experiments in stem-cell research. >> >> Newton's mechanics is science, computer science is true, and however there >> is no information science. The sole criterion for truth or science is >> practice. >> >> Of course, after the Hwang affair, Science（journal ）gets its wrist >> slapped for publishing a fraudulent stem-cell paper. Instead, the committee >> recommends that papers received by the journal should be divided into >> uncontroversial and controversial, and the latter gone over with a fine comb >> of new check.  This is a way to arrive at science, too. >> >> Best wishes >> >>  >> >> QTQ >> >> >> -------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fis mailing list >> fis@listas.unizar.es >> https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > Recent publications online: > - Mathematical description of a so far undisclosed symmetry of nature: > http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.3189v1 > - Physical consequences of a new gauge-symmetry and the concluded > conservation law: > http://www.springerlink.com/content/g28q43v2112721r1/ > - Spontaneous symmetry breaking in non-Euclidean systems: > http://www.springerlink.com/content/k272555u06q2074w/?p=14dd4c9c5b5e4c1396b3e4855a87e9e2&pi=1 > > ______________________________________________________ > Gyorgy Darvas > E-mail / Skype; S Y M M E T R I O N > Mailing address: c/o G. Darvas; 29 Eotvos St., Budapest, H-1067 Hungary > Phone: 36 (1) 302-6965; > Monograph: Symmetry; Course of lectures > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > fis mailing list > fis@listas.unizar.es > https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis ______________________ Robert K. Logan Chief Scientist - sLab at OCAD Prof. Emeritus - Physics - U. of Toronto www.physics.utoronto.ca/Members/logan
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