Dear folks, I think that Koichiro is right. I would say more, though: that the loops just have to be non-reducible to look a lot like biological things. This is basically Robert Rosen's position. The sort of loops required aren't just iterations (that can be decomposed). Rather they are the sort of loop that logicians (and Rosen) call impredicative. Such loopy things have no computable model. As Rosen points out there are far more functions of this sort than merely iterative kind.
John From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Koichiro Matsuno Sent: July 27, 2015 4:13 AM To: 'Marcos Ortega Luis de'; 'fis' Subject: Re: [Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores & L.deMarcos At 4:13 AM 07/27/2015, Luis de Marcos Ortega wrote: a) cycles can imply infinite loops that in our opinion are not appropriate to model human actions b) even considering cycles a set of actions can still be modeled a as a tree, so we consider that loops add unnecessary complexity to the model Loops are clumsy, to be sure. Nonetheless, loops look indispensable in implementing the cohesion for making an organization. An organization maintaining itself through the exchange of component elements has recourse to the cohesion acting between the individual elements incumbent in the organized body and the de novo individuals to be recruited from nearby for replacemt. In fact, a loop can be the cohesive factor of a structural nature emerging from the participating individuals. Koichiro
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