re: quarks
the big question for FIS is this: do quarks communicate? and can their
communications be called informational?
are quarks more than just the first bits of matter in the cosmos? are
they also the first socializers? the first team-makers?
with oomph--howard
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In a message dated 1/16/2016 11:48:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
lo...@physics.utoronto.ca writes:
Stan et al - you honour me by asking the question. We know that matter
(and here I do not include dark matter or dark energy) is made up of a small
number of quarks and gluons. As we go higher and higher energy we will
continue to create these "freaks of nature" freaks in the sense that we create
the conditions for them to come into existence using our high energy
colliders. I am sure they sometimes occur naturally in stars from time to time
but
they do not have any long term effects - they are a passing fancy, a
novelty, and an amusing one at that. Perhaps they will help us understand the
quark gluon interaction. The analogy I see with the transition from
prokaryotes to eukaryotes that I sent to Malcolm was my indulging in
scientific
based poetry. BTW I teach an undergrad course since 1971 called the Poetry of
Physics (also the title of a book available on Amazon) to teach physics to
humanities students without using math to promote science literacy among
humanists.
Another analogy that came to mind was that of proliferation of nucleic
acids made up of the same 4 elements: C, G, A, and T. They are the quarks of
biology and their chemical bonds the gluons.
Metaphorically your - Bob Logan
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On 2016-01-16, at 10:33 AM, Stanley N Salthe wrote:
One way to complicate anything is to smash it into bits. I wonder, Bob,
if you would comment on this point as a former particle physicist!
STAN
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Malcolm Dean <_malcolmdean@gmail.com_
(mailto:malcolmd...@gmail.com) > wrote:
Yes. I don't know enough about Biology, but I noticed the 3+2 business
some time ago. I'm automatically suspicious of theories which are "vexingly
complex" (QCD) and only "beautiful" (String Theory) to a few people with
certain math backgrounds. But the Two and the Three have been important to
humans for thousands of years. I think Nature is actually very simple, but we
get overwhelmed and confused by its enormous scales and by our attempts to
manage observation by (necessarily) creating over-simplified Objects.
M.
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Bob Logan <_logan@physics.utoronto.ca_
(mailto:lo...@physics.utoronto.ca) > wrote:
eukaryote came about by two prokaryotes joining together and 5 quark combo
can be thought of as a nucleon (3 quarks) and a meson(2quarks) combining
and the 4 quqrk state as 2 mesons combining. By this logic perhaps there
will be 6 quark beast if 2 nucleons combine.
On 2016-01-15, at 4:17 PM, Malcolm Dean wrote:
Could you specify the relata?
Malcolm
On Jan 15, 2016 5:31 AM, "Bob Logan" <_logan@physics.utoronto.ca_
(mailto:lo...@physics.utoronto.ca) > wrote:
Hi Malcolm - thanks for this article that supports my notion that my
former field of particle physics is becoming like biology. The 4 and 5 quark
combos represent an analogy of the transition in biology from prokaryotes to
eukaryotes. :-) - Bob
On 2016-01-14, at 7:39 PM, Malcolm Dean wrote:
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6270/217.summary
Science 351(6270):217-219, 15 January 2016; DOI: 10.1126/science.351.6270
.217
The social life of quarks
Adrian Cho
Particle physicists at Europe's CERN laboratory in Switzerland say they
have observed bizarre new cousins of the protons and neutrons that make up
the atomic nucleus. Protons and neutrons consist of other particles called
quarks, bound by the strong nuclear force. By smashing particles at high
energies, physicists have blasted into fleeting existence hundreds of other
quark-containing particles. Until recently, all contained either two or three
quarks. But since 2014, researchers working with CERN's Large Hadron
Collider have also spotted four- and five-quark particles. Such tetraquarks
and
pentaquarks could require physicists to rethink their understanding of
quantum chromodynamics, or they could have less revolutionary implications.
Researchers hope that computer simulations and more collider studies will
reveal how the oddball newcomers are put together, but some wonder whether
experiments will ever provide a definitive answer.
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