I agree that Ctrl+Left and Ctrl+Right are more customary for moving
forward/backward by 1 word, and Fish should be usable on the console.
That should be the default key combo on Fish.

I don't see the argument against Alt+Up, Alt+Down for moving through
history words.

Philip


On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM, James Bowlin <[email protected]> wrote:
> I use tabbed terminal emulators in X and I also often make use of
> the virtual consoles in Linux (ctrl-alt-F[1-6]).  AFAIK, the normal
> key combo for changing to the next/prev virtual console is alt +
> left/right arrow.  Because of this I make all my tabbed terminal
> emulators use this key combo as well for switching between
> terminal tabs.
>
> I've tried other solutions but one problem is that if I'm trying
> to fix someone else's Linux machine and I'm in the virtual
> consoles, then I get confused unless I'm used to using alt +
> left/right arrow for switching vconsoles on my machine.
>
> IMO, the binding in fish of alt + left/right arrow for directory
> history and moving forward and backward one word should be
> changed to ctrl + left/right arrow.  Inside of X-windows, it
> doesn't make much difference but I do think ctrl + arrow is more
> natural for moving by words.
>
> All the problems come in the vconsoles.  Normally alt + arrows are
> bound to switching vconsoles so not only do those combos fail to
> do what is expected in fish (dir history or move one word) they
> do something very unexpected: they change the vconsole.
>
> The problem in the vconsoles is that unless we run loadkeys (as
> root) alt + arrows changes vconsoles and all other $meta + arrow
> combinations do the same thing as the arrow keys alone.  So with a
> default setup ctrl + arrows will also be broken in the vconsoles
> but not nearly so broken as alt + arrows.  If we are willing and
> able to run loadkeys as root then we can map ctrl + left/right to
> alt + b and alt + f which are also mapped to the
> prevd-or-backward-word and nextd-or-forward-word commands which
> makes ctrl + left/right work in the vconsoles.  That is how my
> machine is configured now.
>
> Bottom line: I think the default alt + left/right bindings should
> be changed to ctrl + left/right and alt + left/right should be
> unbound.  While this would still be broken OOTB in the vconsoles,
> it is less broken.  Further, it is easily fixed by running
> loadkeys as root without disrupting the normal use of alt +
> left/right to change vconsoles.
>
>
> Peace, James
>
>
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