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>   1. Re: Default fish shell coloring not appearing (Pito Salas)
>   2. Re: Default fish shell coloring not appearing (Kurtis Rader)
>   3. Re: Default fish shell coloring not appearing (Pito Salas)
>   4. New Member (barn...@drofle.co.uk)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 21:17:37 -0400
> From: Pito Salas <pitosa...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fish-users] Default fish shell coloring not appearing
> To: Kurtis Rader <kra...@skepticism.us>
> Cc: fish-users Mailing List <fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Message-ID: <ba69c37d-78e9-460c-97f5-b66d44209...@gmail.com>
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> Interesting. There are a variety of differences, but the first one is 
> especially interesting. Notice the first line, 
> ?__fish_classic_git_prompt_initialized?. Is that important? Do you see any 
> other clues?
> 
> SET U ON COMPUTER WHERE SHELL USES BLACK TEXT ON WHITE BACKGROUND:
> 
> __fish_classic_git_prompt_initialized
> __fish_init_1_50_0
> __fish_init_2_3_0
> fish_color_autosuggestion 555
> fish_color_command 005fd7
> fish_color_comment 990000
> fish_color_cwd green
> fish_color_cwd_root red
> fish_color_end 009900
> fish_color_error ff0000
> fish_color_escape cyan
> fish_color_history_current cyan
> fish_color_host normal
> fish_color_match cyan
> fish_color_normal normal
> fish_color_operator cyan
> fish_color_param 00afff
> fish_color_quote 999900
> fish_color_redirection 00afff
> fish_color_search_match --background=purple
> fish_color_selection --background=purple
> fish_color_status red
> fish_color_user green
> fish_color_valid_path --underline
> fish_greeting Welcome\ to\ fish,\ the\ friendly\ interactive\ shell\nType\ 
> \e\[32mhe?
> fish_key_bindings fish_default_key_bindings
> fish_pager_color_completion normal
> fish_pager_color_description '555'  'yellow'
> fish_pager_color_prefix cyan
> fish_pager_color_progress cyan
> fisher_active_prompt mono
> fisher_dependency_count 'git_util'  'pwd_is_home'  'pwd_info'  'host_info'  
> 'last_job_id'  'humanize'?
> 
> 
> 
> AND HERE IS FOR THE COMPUTER WHERE FISH SHELL USES COLORS
> 
> __fish_init_1_50_0
> __fish_init_2_3_0
> fish_color_autosuggestion '555'  'yellow'
> fish_color_command '005fd7'  'purple'
> fish_color_comment red
> fish_color_cwd green
> fish_color_cwd_root red
> fish_color_end green
> fish_color_error 'red'  '--bold'
> fish_color_escape cyan
> fish_color_history_current cyan
> fish_color_host normal
> fish_color_match cyan
> fish_color_normal normal
> fish_color_operator cyan
> fish_color_param '00afff'  'cyan'
> fish_color_quote brown
> fish_color_redirection normal
> fish_color_search_match --background=purple
> fish_color_selection --background=purple
> fish_color_user green
> fish_color_valid_path --underline
> fish_greeting Welcome\ to\ fish,\ the\ friendly\ interactive\ shell\nType\ 
> \e\[32mhe?
> fish_key_bindings fish_default_key_bindings
> fish_pager_color_completion normal
> fish_pager_color_description '555'  'yellow'
> fish_pager_color_prefix cyan
> fish_pager_color_progress cyan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Kurtis Rader <kra...@skepticism.us> wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Pito Salas <pitosa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> computer one: xterm 2.3.0
>> computer two: xterm 2.3.1
>> 
>> If you run `set -U` on each system and compare the output are they truly the 
>> same? Also, "xterm" only supports eight colors. Fish has a heuristic to 
>> treat that as "xterm-256color" in certain situations but I don't recall off 
>> the top of my head if iTerm2 on macOS is one of them. In any case for the 
>> benefit of your other programs you should `set -gx TERM xterm-256color`. Try 
>> some controlled experiments such as 
>> 
>> echo (set_color -b white green)hello(set_color normal)
>> 
>> Do you see the same green text on a white background on both systems?
>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Kurtis Rader <kra...@skepticism.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is $TERM $FISH_VERSION on each system?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Pito Salas <pitosa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I?ve been using Fish for a month now and loving it.
>>> 
>>> I am using it on two computers.
>>> 
>>> One one (mac air) the shell properly colors different syntactic elements 
>>> just like the screenshots show on the site
>>> 
>>> On the other, the shell displays white text on a black background.
>>> 
>>> As far as I know I am using the exact same configuration
>>> 
>>> In both cases I am using the latest version of iTerm2
>>> 
>>> In both cases the same version of El Cap.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure where to look to sort this out. The only reason it matters is 
>>> if it?s an indication of some other more important problem.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Pito
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Kurtis Rader
>>> Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kurtis Rader
>> Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 18:30:31 -0700
> From: Kurtis Rader <kra...@skepticism.us>
> Subject: Re: [Fish-users] Default fish shell coloring not appearing
> To: Pito Salas <pitosa...@gmail.com>
> Cc: fish-users Mailing List <fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Message-ID:
>       <CABx2=d-8q2ufb-e+3juybed_3fy6hly+trkl-qmok+0g-xy...@mail.gmail.com>
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> The key difference is probably this entry:
> 
> fisher_active_prompt mono
> 
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Pito Salas <pitosa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Interesting. There are a variety of differences, but the first one is
>> especially interesting. Notice the first line,
>> ?__fish_classic_git_prompt_initialized?. Is that important? Do you see any
>> other clues?
>> 
>> SET U ON COMPUTER WHERE SHELL USES BLACK TEXT ON WHITE BACKGROUND:
>> 
>> __fish_classic_git_prompt_initialized
>> __fish_init_1_50_0
>> __fish_init_2_3_0
>> fish_color_autosuggestion 555
>> fish_color_command 005fd7
>> fish_color_comment 990000
>> fish_color_cwd green
>> fish_color_cwd_root red
>> fish_color_end 009900
>> fish_color_error ff0000
>> fish_color_escape cyan
>> fish_color_history_current cyan
>> fish_color_host normal
>> fish_color_match cyan
>> fish_color_normal normal
>> fish_color_operator cyan
>> fish_color_param 00afff
>> fish_color_quote 999900
>> fish_color_redirection 00afff
>> fish_color_search_match --background=purple
>> fish_color_selection --background=purple
>> fish_color_status red
>> fish_color_user green
>> fish_color_valid_path --underline
>> fish_greeting Welcome\ to\ fish,\ the\ friendly\ interactive\ shell\nType\
>> \e\[32mhe?
>> fish_key_bindings fish_default_key_bindings
>> fish_pager_color_completion normal
>> fish_pager_color_description '555'  'yellow'
>> fish_pager_color_prefix cyan
>> fish_pager_color_progress cyan
>> fisher_active_prompt mono
>> fisher_dependency_count 'git_util'  'pwd_is_home'  'pwd_info'
>> 'host_info'  'last_job_id'  'humanize'?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> AND HERE IS FOR THE COMPUTER WHERE FISH SHELL USES COLORS
>> 
>> __fish_init_1_50_0
>> __fish_init_2_3_0
>> fish_color_autosuggestion '555'  'yellow'
>> fish_color_command '005fd7'  'purple'
>> fish_color_comment red
>> fish_color_cwd green
>> fish_color_cwd_root red
>> fish_color_end green
>> fish_color_error 'red'  '--bold'
>> fish_color_escape cyan
>> fish_color_history_current cyan
>> fish_color_host normal
>> fish_color_match cyan
>> fish_color_normal normal
>> fish_color_operator cyan
>> fish_color_param '00afff'  'cyan'
>> fish_color_quote brown
>> fish_color_redirection normal
>> fish_color_search_match --background=purple
>> fish_color_selection --background=purple
>> fish_color_user green
>> fish_color_valid_path --underline
>> fish_greeting Welcome\ to\ fish,\ the\ friendly\ interactive\ shell\nType\
>> \e\[32mhe?
>> fish_key_bindings fish_default_key_bindings
>> fish_pager_color_completion normal
>> fish_pager_color_description '555'  'yellow'
>> fish_pager_color_prefix cyan
>> fish_pager_color_progress cyan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Kurtis Rader <kra...@skepticism.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Pito Salas <pitosa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> computer one: xterm 2.3.0
>>> computer two: xterm 2.3.1
>>> 
>>> If you run `set -U` on each system and compare the output are they truly
>> the same? Also, "xterm" only supports eight colors. Fish has a heuristic to
>> treat that as "xterm-256color" in certain situations but I don't recall off
>> the top of my head if iTerm2 on macOS is one of them. In any case for the
>> benefit of your other programs you should `set -gx TERM xterm-256color`.
>> Try some controlled experiments such as
>>> 
>>> echo (set_color -b white green)hello(set_color normal)
>>> 
>>> Do you see the same green text on a white background on both systems?
>>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Kurtis Rader <kra...@skepticism.us> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is $TERM $FISH_VERSION on each system?
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Pito Salas <pitosa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I?ve been using Fish for a month now and loving it.
>>>> 
>>>> I am using it on two computers.
>>>> 
>>>> One one (mac air) the shell properly colors different syntactic
>> elements just like the screenshots show on the site
>>>> 
>>>> On the other, the shell displays white text on a black background.
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I know I am using the exact same configuration
>>>> 
>>>> In both cases I am using the latest version of iTerm2
>>>> 
>>>> In both cases the same version of El Cap.
>>>> 
>>>> I am not sure where to look to sort this out. The only reason it
>> matters is if it?s an indication of some other more important problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Pito
>>>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Fish-users mailing list
>>>> Fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Kurtis Rader
>>>> Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Kurtis Rader
>>> Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank
>> 
>> 
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> Kurtis Rader
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:24:49 -0400
> From: Pito Salas <pitosa...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fish-users] Default fish shell coloring not appearing
> To: Kurtis Rader <kra...@skepticism.us>
> Cc: fish-users Mailing List <fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Message-ID: <f34f4ce3-b5bd-47fc-84b3-aa20929cc...@gmail.com>
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> One experiment I just did: I ran Terminal.app (the default terminal emulator 
> on Mac OS X) and the fish color scheme appeared as it is supposed to. On the 
> other hand when I ran iTerm2.app (a very popular alternative) all the text is 
> black on a white background. So it must be something about the setup of 
> iTerm2. Given that evidence, do you have a further idea maybe? I looked at 
> the settings and everything seems ok. Thoughts?
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:11:48 +0100
> From: barn...@drofle.co.uk
> Subject: [Fish-users] New Member
> To: fish-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID: <63580116-6368-bdc8-8dae-857c3155f...@drofle.co.uk>
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> I have just joined the list, so I thought to say hello. I am retired and 
> I use Linux only, Xubuntu 16.04. I have used bash as my shell up to now, 
> but decided to look elsewhere. My main problem is that bash arithmetic 
> uses integers only. I know there are ways round this using bc, but it is 
> a bit of a pain.
> 
> I have looked at zsh but did not get on with it at all. Blame me. Then I 
> came across Fish and so far am well impressed. Floating point numbers 
> are fine for addition, subtraction and multiplication. As ever it is 
> division, and square roots, which can cause a problem. Either you get no 
> decimal places or too many.
> 
> However I have found a way round that, using bc and the scale parameter. 
> So now I can work with division and square roots and get as many, or as 
> few, decimal places as I need. Great.
> 
> So hello to all members, and thanks for all the hard work done with the 
> Fish shell.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
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