This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello to everyone,
I guess I must be failing to see the point, here? We know Gjest was licensed in Norway, exported to Holland as a licensed breeding stallion, then exported to North America. His trotting record of 2.12 is in the book, Van "Vestlandhest" tot "Fjordenpaard", by B.J. van Bon. I just looked. Personally, I would have thought that if this were not in fact true, the owners of the stallions that had beaten this record and the country from which they originated would have set the record straight 20 years ago, when the first edition was published. >From my understanding, Norway and Holland acknowledge/honor each other's evaluations scores, just as we honor scores from both countries. Surely Holland would not have imported an inferior and unproven stallion? That seems fairly unlikely to me. If the problem is just seeing Gjest's scores in Norway, cannot someone simply ask Norway for a copy? I just looked up Gjest under Norway's online stud book and I thought it was confusing. Here is what the entry reads: Gjest 1846FH f. 1977 L.Brunblak 3.pr. 1998 Oppdr.: Rolf Eimhjellen, Hyen Eier: Nederland, Årgang 1982 _info_ (http://ny.hestesenteret.no/main.php?hest_id=14768F) Lady Diana 14768F rødblakk hp 3. pr. u. _Tungod_ (http://ny.hestesenteret.no/main.php?hest_id=13278F&cs=trav) Why does it have the year 1998 after the end of Gjest's entry? I looked up a few well known Norwegian stallions; for example Astrix, Flotren, Solar, and Smedsmo Graen, and these stallions show few if any offspring sired in Norway through the online stud book. So, either they were exported before they were bred or the online stud book is incomplete. Does anyone have a hard copy of Norway's stud book? Holland's studbook link is inactive, not that we do not already know Gjest sired numerous offspring in that country. The gist I have been getting from this conversation is that, for whatever reason, Gjest's record over the last 20 years is just now being questioned, although there is at least one obvious expert, van Bon, who has one of these items of discrepancy documented as fact. I would imagine seeing a hard copy of Norway's stud book and also, Gjest's scores would solve some of the current debate. However, I have been reading another thread in these posts that is a bit worrisome. I have been getting the impression that IF Gjest would have been re-evaluated under the NFHR system, then this conversation might not be taking place. Is this an accurate assessment? I surely hope not. I would hope we would always honor systems that have been proven through the years to be very accurate and are the models for which our NFHR system is trying to copy. Lynda Thanks much, references are available. Lynda and Daniel Bailey's White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/index.html