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Hello to everyone,

I guess I must be failing to see the point, here?

We know Gjest was licensed in Norway, exported to Holland as a licensed
breeding stallion, then exported to North America.  His trotting record of
2.12
is in the book, Van "Vestlandhest" tot "Fjordenpaard", by B.J. van  Bon.  I
just looked.  Personally, I would have thought that if this  were not in fact
true, the owners of the stallions that had beaten this record  and the country
from which they originated would have set the record straight 20  years ago,
when the first edition was published.

>From my understanding, Norway and Holland acknowledge/honor each other's
evaluations scores, just as we honor scores from both countries.  Surely
Holland
would not have imported an inferior and unproven stallion?  That  seems
fairly unlikely to me.

If the problem is just seeing Gjest's scores in Norway, cannot someone
simply ask Norway for a copy?

I just looked up Gjest under Norway's online stud book and I thought it was
confusing.  Here is what the entry reads:


Gjest
1846FH f. 1977 L.Brunblak 3.pr.  1998



Oppdr.: Rolf Eimhjellen, Hyen  Eier: Nederland,


 Årgang 1982   _info_ (http://ny.hestesenteret.no/main.php?hest_id=14768F)
Lady Diana  14768F rødblakk hp 3. pr. u. _Tungod_
(http://ny.hestesenteret.no/main.php?hest_id=13278F&cs=trav)


Why does it have the year 1998 after  the end of Gjest's entry?

I looked up a few well known Norwegian  stallions; for example Astrix,
Flotren, Solar, and Smedsmo Graen, and  these stallions show few if any
offspring
sired in Norway  through the online stud book.   So, either they were exported
before they were bred or the online stud book is incomplete.  Does  anyone
have a hard copy of Norway's stud book?

Holland's studbook link is inactive,  not that we do not already know Gjest
sired numerous offspring in that  country.

The gist I have been getting from this  conversation is that, for whatever
reason, Gjest's record over the last 20  years is just now being questioned,
although there is at least one obvious  expert, van Bon, who has one of these
items of discrepancy documented as  fact.  I would imagine seeing a hard copy
of
Norway's stud book and  also, Gjest's scores would solve some of the current
debate.

However, I have been reading another  thread in these posts that is a bit
worrisome.  I have been getting  the impression that IF Gjest would have been
re-evaluated under the NFHR  system, then this conversation might not be
taking
place.  Is this an  accurate assessment?

I surely hope not.  I would hope  we would always honor systems that have
been proven through the years to  be very accurate and are the models for
which
our NFHR system is trying to  copy.

Lynda


Thanks much,  references are available.

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's
White Cloud,  MI
231-689-9902
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http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/index.html


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