This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Marsha Jo Hannah wrote: 

>>I've heard the contention that old Nordic grave sites, from 2000 to
4000 years ago, contained skeletons of what looked a lot like Fjords.Would
you care to comment on the known archeological (bones, artwork,etc) history
of Fjords?>>

Ok, basically: 2000 BC - 0 is the Scandinavian Bronze Age (starts at 1700
BC, ends c. 500 BC) and Celtic Iron Age. I am not specialized in these
period, but I think that finds of horse bones in graves are very rare from
these periods. We know of horse tack from the Bronze Age, but artefacts
have been found in deposites/hoards. 

During the Roman Iron Age (0-400 AD) horses were sacrificed as part of the
cult. Skeletons and tack has later been found in what now are bogs, but
what then were lakes. Analysis that have been carried out, but since most
of the excavation were carried out in the 60's there were no certain way to
judge breed/type/parentage of the horses. The size were however measurable,
and most prehistoric horses from Scandinavia seem to be 12-14,3 hands. This
fits the size of the Fjord well, but also many other breeds, e.g. the
Icelandic horse. 

The 'great' era for horses in graves in prehistoric Sweden were the Vendel
Period (c. 500-800 AD) and the Viking Age (c. 800-1060 AD). Horses were put
in chieftain's graves during the Vendel period. The boat graves from the
Mälar Valley in Sweden are world famous. Here, a man was put in a boat
togheter with several horses with tack, kitchen stuff, other animals,
precious clothes and weapons. The boat were then buried (not burnt). Only
one man/generation was buried this way. By the end of the Vendel Period,
the boat burial custom are getting more common and the gifts put in the
graves less expensive. Horses stay to be an important part of the grave
goods. Horses are seldom found in female grave, but they do exist. The most
famous exemple are the famous Oseberg ship burial from Norway. This grave
is dated to 830's AD, and many (I don´t remeber if it is 10 or 15) horses
were put in the grave, all decapitivated. A saddle, 3 sleighs and a wagon
were also found in the grave. The wood was very well preserved, due to the
soil conditions.

So, what kind of horses were these? Until less 10 years ago, it was not
possible to say. But nowadays, it is possible to use DNA-technique on
ancient bones too, and soon we will therefore be able to tell what modern
horses are the 'children' of the ancient ones in Scandinavia, and how they
are related. The work was first focused on building up a database with the
DNA-profile of all modern horse breeds, to use as a refrence for ancient
studies. There are a Swedish archaeologist that works to DNA-profile horses
from some Swedish Iron Age sites, but his work is not ready yet. 

So far we have to do with the knowledge that our breed is very old, which
the 100% dun colur proves. The Fjord is also closely related to the
Icelandic horse. So my guess is that these two modern breeds had the same
ancestors. During the last 1000 years, man's diffrent need has developed
the Scandinavian horses to different breeds. 

Regards Anneli

>Marsha Jo Hannah                Murphy must have been a horseman--
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]               anything that can go wrong, will!
>30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif.
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